Possible Sigma Trade....is this a bad idea?

[KZ1000]

I have a RIA 1911 in .45 that while I love, its a kind of bear to carry and I'm igged out by cocked and locked. I find myself going more towards my .38 Model 60 in most cases for EDC.

That said, there is someone local selling a Sigma in 9mm with 4 hi caps (pre-ban, MA) and 2 neutermags. Included in the deal is a wolff trigger spring.

I have no real opinion on the Sigma and have read a ton of conflicting reviews, mostly horrible, about it. How BAD is this trigger or is it just a long revolver like trigger in a DAO pistol?

Has anyone carried this? That's my main inquiry - I always said if I carried or bought a 9mm autoloader, it would have to have a high capacity mag and this deal seems to fit the bill - the guy offered to trade my RIA for it --

Any thoughts? If I don't end up doing this deal, Im going to hold out for a 5906 (yes, I know its a totally different animal) or duracoat the 1911 and have a smith foolproof it so I can carry it.

 

[OKFC05]

I use Sigmas for trainers and loaners, and they are very reliable in stock form. I call their trigger "algebra problem" because it is long and hard, like a double-action revolver.

I would not consider carrying for defense any Sigma that someone had "improved" with lighter aftermarket springs, or by removing any of the stock springs. Why? A lighter striker spring can cause misfires, and reduced sear springs can cause failure to reset the sear with hot defense loads (think single shot).

I sold a well-used and carefully action polished Sigma to a local shooter who blew up his HiPoint, and he shot the Sigma at several IDPA matches with zero problems of any kind. Then he decided to "improve" it and has constant problems, which of course are not his fault.

 

[KZ1000]

the word that the seller came back to me with was that he hasn't installed the Wolff springs. Given that it has no safeties to speak of, I'm actually reticent to really mess with it - especially as I'll likely pack it IWB, loaded chamber.

That said, I know Sigmas mimic Glocks - is the drop safety similar?

 

[KZ1000]

forgot to add - the triggers on the newer VE models all seem to have a crunch/grit feel to them - is smoothing this out possible or even a good idea?

 

[growr]

Keep your 1911 and ADD a Sigma to your herd. Keep in mind that the Sigma is really nothing more than a semi automatic revolver in it's trigger design and useage.
If you can shoot a revolver well in DA you are certainly good to go on a Sigma.

Randy

 

[Jim H]

forgot to add - the triggers on the newer VE models all seem to have a crunch/grit feel to them - is smoothing this out possible or even a good idea?

A lot of firing may smooth it out for you, and is more fun than taking it apart.

Dry-firing firing may also smooth it without the expense of ammo, but is also less fun...

 

[J Rich]

I'm with growr.

While I love my Sigma, I wouldn't trade a 1911 for a Sigma. You can pick up a Sigma for less than $300. You can't get a decent 1911 for less than $500. In the end it's your deal do what makes you happy.

 

[cbr6864]

used Sigmas are under $200 used RIA 1911 $350-450......i really hope your not planning a straight up trade maybe if the guy tossed in $200-300 with the sigma

 

[KZ1000]

he's offering 4 hi cap magazines with 2 10 rounders. my RIA has 4 8 rounders and 1 10 as well as 2 holsters.

 

[cbr6864]

Do you mean standard capacity mags? Dont really see them as high capacity if anything teh 10rds are low capacity. Just another evil term from Commiefornia to paint guns in a bad light. Hell I have a brand new Sigma 9ve ill trade you straight up any day for a 1911.

 

[J Rich]

I'm wondering what's wrong with the 1911. Do you just have your heart set on having something different? If that's the case I have a very nice just slightly used 40ve with 4 14rd mags in the original S&W blue plastic case and Fobus holster for trade.

 

[KZ1000]

Nothing really.

In fact, its probably one of the guns I shoot most accurately with.

The "problems" I have with it are that the soft parkerization lends itself to constant surface rust. I know this can be cured with a cerakote job....

otherwise, Im still iffy about cocked and locked. My preferred method of carry is IWB with a crossbreed. I do this now with my model 60 and as a larger gentleman, wearing this at 4:00 pushes the leather onto the hammer spur....my fear is that the safety will fail/wear out whilst carrying. I know, it has more than one safety, but this is my hyperactive brain thinking of the worst at all times.

 

[Titegroups]

I've shot both, keep the RIA.

 

[cbr6864]

1911s are perfectly safe 3 things must happen to fire, safety flipped to off, grip safety depressed, trigger pulled.....even more so if you have a series 80. I live in south east TX VERY HOT HUMID I oil my guns every 2 weeks not a spot of rust, proper storage is key. I keep my handguns in a common sock that has over time become soaked in oil.

 

[KZ1000]

well an update - the site I have my RIA posted onturned up 2 new leads - a Sig P250 with the 9mm conversion kit (which id betossing more cash at) and a SW 745.....researching the 745 now....

 

[KZ1000]

sorry. 457. frrikkin dyslexia

 

[Swockster]

I love my Sigma and I would encourage you to add one to your lot. However, the trigger is like a revolver's trigger. That's fine with me but it might not be for you. Especially if you've been firing a 1911. They are very reliable with no safeties to fumble with. I have experienced two jams in a little over eight hundred rounds. One with an old and rather roughed up Russian round, and one with a reload. The Sigma is not a finely tuned instrument...having said that, you'll be hard pressed to hear about one failing due to mistreatment or neglect. Their tough, reliable, take-your-beating-and-keep-shooting, tools. I guess you can call them the AK-47 of semi-auto pistols. That just happens to fit my bill perfectly.

 

[SonsOfLiberty86]

I paid over $500 for my Rock Island 1911 and paid under $300 for my Sigma.

I don't think it's a good trade for you if you got rid of your Rock Island.

 

[KyWstJoe]

I would not make that deal. Your RIA 1911 should be worth atleast $100. more than the Sigma.

 

[HalfStack]

I find the Sigma real comfy to shoot despite the hard trigger, ergonomic grip and wide trigger. I smoothed the trigger by putting a glop of grease between the sear cam and the housing. That takes away the gritty feeling.

By the way, keep your RIA and just buy the Sigma if you really want it. I know what you mean about carrying cocked and locked. Any DAO pistol will ease that worry.