Prime-time Gun-Control Speech Coming Soon...

[lagavulin62]

I think lobogunleather nailed it best.

we can't forget that obama is NOT a politician. if there is anything worse than a politician it's a revolutionary like obama. he is just biding time and feeling the waters like has been said. he really doesn't care about a second term but he will take it if it happens. honestly he never expected to win the presidency in the first place. i don't think he ever dreamed so many americans were this nutty to elect him. so now he is taking all he can.

true the constitution is only a barrier to him and he will stop at nothing to destroy it.

on a side note, the only way we will ever secure some sense of security in regards to our rights is with term limits. i think that should even include a maximum service for our supreme court judges. the larger question is how much longer do we think we can hold on to our liberties when we are without representation? it shouldn't take the funding of the nra to buy off our "reps" and force a vote in our favor. it's only a question of time. nearly every rep in congress that has been in office for any length of time is for sale. we can't go on like this forever.

so it's a question more of how will we respond once "civil discourse" is exhausted. we have to at least start the process of understanding that this is what we may face in our lifetime.

just my opinion.

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

The current administration wants a second term...

...which is why there will not be any serious gun control legislation that will get beyond the mouth phase. They would like to, but it won't happen.

The government is already widely distrusted and that grows by the day. To come out on any negative stance involving firearms at this point would be politically unsound.

 

[b52buff]

If obama was to get in for a second term ( hope not ) he just might drag some dems into office on his coat tails then there maybe big problems for our country as we have known in many ways.

 

[stantheman86]

Gun control is a "hot potato" these days, politically, and the Dems took a thrashing in the past elections......Obama knows any attack on gun rights would take his odds of a 2nd term from very slim, to none.

There are still enough namby pamby soccer moms and rose colored glasses, "gun free Utopia" idiots out there to give the liberals some hope of support for any gun bans......

 

[luangtom]

Most all of these posts make valid points. However, I know locally, many of those telling me that gun-control is not a worry due to the political ramifications for the DemoKrats is being told me by the very same people that told me a first-term, unknown Senator from Illinois would NEVER get the party nomination, then NEVER win the election. Look what we got.......

 

[Rule3]

Todays e mail from NRA

NRA-ILA :: Obama To Push Gun Control Soon

 

[lagavulin62]

wow, the mental health section of this is really scary. they could use that to ban guns from just about anyone. and also the drug section. proof that the drug laws are not just insurance for the pharmaceutical companies but also primarily a means to control the masses. it kills me that so much of this understanding is well known and preached in the minority communities, yet minority representation for the most part supports all these bans and continued class warfare legislation.

I have said time and again the nra has to do a better job of educating the minority groups. any visit at a gun show beats it all home that we are missing something in our education efforts.

 

[DeadManWalking]

The politicians will only pass law that they think is in our best interests. The administration seems to know what is best for everyone and the country. Sort of like an all knowing big brother.

"The politicians will only pass law that they think is in our best interests." Now that is funny. PUKE! How do you know when a politician is lying? His lips are moving.

 

[rvito]

I dont think he will try this term but if he is re-elected that might be another story!!!

 

[Dusty Miller]

If he indeed makes a gun control speech soon I'm convinced the motivation for it will be to mollify those far lefters whose hearts pine for more GC. I don't think he really expects to get a bill through the Congress during this term and I doubt he'd try it in a second term. He knows it would inflame the political right, its a third rail issue. He'd have better luck trying to cut Social Security benefits!

 

[jtpur]

Just the other day there was a debate held by the Cato Institute. On the panel was a person from the Brady group and he had the final statement and to paraphrase it....Well we should at least have the same licensing and registration laws on guns that we impose to get a driver license... Gun control (aka gun banning) is alive and well. The left will not rest until the establish "reasonable" gun control...Like the Camel and the tent fable....they will chip away and chip away... The next attempt will be to outlaw high capacity magazines.......they will start by defining that as plus ten, which will be eventually plus one.....and so on and so forth...Obama must appease his base and by suggesting "reasonable" legislation he will at least try to appease his base... So I envision something like this. Murphy proposes a ban on high capacity....the Pres at a press conference is aksed something like this... " Mr President, would you support such legislation and would you sign the bill if it passed....?" er, ah, em, ah well, let me say this, We must be civil and explore ways to be more civil and perhaps reasonable rules should be agreed upon by reasonable people and we must stop with Partisan politics and well, what was the question"??????

 

[Filbird]

I have always thought that the fear of President Obama in the gun-owning community is unreasonable and unwarranted. Barack Obama is a politician. Good Lord, he cut his political teeth in Chicago. He knows that he has NOTHING to gain by pushing gun control legislation. He also knows that even the most seemingly rational and minor gun control push would unleash a torrent of reaction across the political spectrum, especially among the independent voters that the Democratic party needs in order to win elections. The Republican-controlled House would never pass any gun control legislation in any event, and even the Senate (which has a Democratic majority) would be hard-pressed to pass gun control legislation, given the number of Democratic senators from relatively conservative states.

The voters that Obama would appease by pushing gun control legislation are the voters he already owns. Why should he pay for real estate that he already owns? Does anyone really think that he will be challenged from the LEFT in the Democratic party?

Like Clinton, Obama will move to the center to try to win re-election in 2012. The Republicans will fight 2012 based on health care and other old issues that will not resonate in 2012. The economy will have recovered sufficiently by then, and Obama will probably win re-election. But, I see no reason to believe that the Democrats will win back the House. I see no reason to believe that gun control legislation will be either advanced or passed.

 

[Bullseye 2620]

It doesn't make any difference if the Administration introduces some gun control legislation. It is DOA in both the Senate and the House. If they do introduce something, it is for the purpose of paying a debt to their base, with the idea that "this is a down payment, and if you work hard to get us re-elected in 2012, we will pay off the rest of the debt with more far-reaching proposals in a second term."

Also consider this: Democratic political analysts are very mindful of what happened in West Virginia, where Bush won by 6%, and Tennessee, which Bush won by 4%, in the 2000 Presidential election. Those two states should have gone Democratic (I mean, Gore is from Tennessee) but the difference was clearly due to gun owners and the campaign run by the NRA in those two key states. Had either one gone the other way, Gore would have been elected, regardless of what happened in Florida.

As has been said by others here, there is no gain to be had by the Administration by pushing any new gun control initiatives. A major tragedy or act of domestic terrorism could change that though.


Bullseye

 

[cp1969]

Also consider this: Democratic political analysts are very mindful of what happened in West Virginia, where Bush won by 6%, and Tennessee, which Bush won by 4%, in the 2000 Presidential election. Those two states should have gone Democratic (I mean, Gore is from Tennessee) but the difference was clearly due to gun owners and the campaign run by the NRA in those two key states. Had either one gone the other way, Gore would have been elected, regardless of what happened in Florida.

Bullseye

Had the Democrats done the right thing and removed Clinton from office, there would have never been a Bush II Presidency, either. As an incumbent President, Gore would have easily beat Bush.

 

[walnutred]

Obama is not a Politician, he's a puppet. If the DNC can push their agenda at the cost of Obama they will certainly do so. Do you think ANYTHING that has happened on the Federal level in the last two years was planned by Obama? THis has been the same agenda the DNC has pushed for decades.

 

[dpsix]

Political partys divide up issues like people carve up a Thanksgiving turkey. Here I'll take the breast, you take the leg.....I'll take health care, you take tax cuts. No! I want health care, you take gay marriage. All right, you can have health care but your going to have to throw in gun rights.... There are probably very few politicians who are really concerned about the 2nd Amendment and would toss gun owners overboard in a NY second if it is in their personal best interest. That applies to both the dem's an rep's.

 

[lagavulin62]

despite what little I know of how agencies operate and are influenced i am becoming more concerned of the batfe, epa etc.. than what members of congress doing.

 

[cp1969]

despite what little I know of how agencies operate and are influenced i am becoming more concerned of the batfe, epa etc.. than what members of congress doing.

Very good point. These agencies create de facto legislation at the whim of whatever administration is in power.

 

[PDL]

Seems like there's a recurring theme that politicians won't pass things cause they think it would cause problems with future elections.

I can't buy that at all. Look at the BS health care law that was passed. There's a wider majority of Americans against that than any gun issues. And it's also been declared unconstitutional, so the 2nd amendment shouldn't hold them back on regulations either.

There are still too many gun owners who "don't mind" certain regulations. Like CCW permits and tests, mag capacity limits, etc.