Proper Carrying of M&P 40 w/no safety?

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Hi Folks,

I recently purchased my M&P 40, no safety, no mag safety, no mag lock etc. Wondering what the proper/safe way to carry it would be? I would guess one in the chamber would be fine...but being new to the gun, I thought I'd solicit input from members that are more familiar with the weapon.

Thanks in advance.
 
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If you think you may need to use it to protect yourself, I would keep it fully loaded and always carry it in a quality holster that points the gun toward the ground. I do not like holsters that point the gun up, rearward, or any other direction but down. Since you have no safety, I would be especially careful when holstering. With a good holster that is designed specifically for your gun make and model, and careful handling, you should be fine.
 
Use a proper holster, and keep your finger out of/off the trigger, until you are ready to fire. It won't go off by itself.

If you want, carry it for a while with a snap cap in the chamber, and live rounds in the magazine. You can see that the trigger isn't snagged or pulled, and even if it should somehow be, the snap cap won't fire.

If you need to, you can rack the slide and chamber a live round. Then when you are comfortable and confident in the safety of the pistol, you can carry it with a live round in the chamber.
 
Get a good quality holster design specific for the m&p make sure the holster covers the trigger fully. Practice with an empty gun, ammunition in separate room. Then practice drawing and holstering you gun be mindful of finger placement never put finger on the trigger until you are ready to shoot.
 
Buy a good holster and carry the holster with the gun unloaded in your house for sometime, then do it with the gun loaded, when you feel comfortable then you can go outside. REMEMBER, KEEP YOUR FINGER OUT OF THE TRIGGER UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO FIRE.
 
What the above said plus

Think of getting into a game such as IDPA or USPSA. In those games you can use your carry pistol, and have multiple people assisting you with getting confident in having a hot pistol, and deploying it. Confidence and skill come faster when you practice more, and for me, pistol games are practice.
 
All the above, plus make sure nothing you wear can potentially obstruct a proper draw or holstering. A loose jacket drawstring that gets inside the trigger guard when inserting the gun...everyone has a bad day.

ALL the above too. Also add any straps made to hold the handgun in the holster too. Also practice drawing & holstering an empty cocked handgun until you are comfortable.

I was also a bit leery about not having a thumb safety at first. ALL my old handguns had them. It didn't take long getting use to the trigger safety and all my M&P's are that way. Just remember trigger/finger discipline. NEVER EVER put your finger on the trigger until you are ready to fire the weapon. I have always carried one in the chamber,but that's your choice.
 
Definitely carry in a holster. And if at all possible try to only insert the gun into the holster before you put the holster on or before you put the holster into your pocket. And obviously point it in a safe direction when holstering.
 
Thank you all for the input/suggestions etc....as expected nothing shocking. But I feel better hearing "real world" info from experienced M&P owners. I am researching holsters and will probably get a 1 shoulder and 1 hip holster.

And again, a big thanks for all the responses.
 
Chambered is my preference; however, unchambered is not "improper". Go by your comfort level. Gun must be holstered so as to cover the trigger.
 
Avoid the Blackhawk! Serpa holster imo - do a search on google for Serpa ND's - it's pretty bad stuff. If you want a plastic OWB holster with an active retention system get a Safariland ALS.

I threw my Serpa out to the trash for my Glock 23 after some research on it and replaced it with the Safariland. Very happy with my decision. In fact my M&P 9mm full size should be here later today or tomorrow and I plan on getting another Safariland ALS for it as well.
 
Hi Folks,

I recently purchased my M&P 40, no safety, no mag safety, no mag lock etc. Wondering what the proper/safe way to carry it would be? I would guess one in the chamber would be fine...but being new to the gun, I thought I'd solicit input from member sthat are more familiar with the weapon.

Thanks in advance.

I have been carrying my M&P 40C for almost 4 years always one in the chamber:D

i'm not an active safety kind of guy though. I grew up on the revolver mind set, the gun is loaded and if I touch the trigger I better expect it to go off.
 
Thank you all for the input/suggestions etc....as expected nothing shocking. But I feel better hearing "real world" info from experienced M&P owners. I am researching holsters and will probably get a 1 shoulder and 1 hip holster.

And again, a big thanks for all the responses.

I like the Crossbreed SuperTuck for Concealed Carry and I agree with people above on the Blackhawk Serpa holsters.

Also I like my Galco King Tuk, but not as much as the Crossbreed.

For OWB I like the Fobus paddles:D
 
The Fobus holsters are decent enough for el-cheapo holsters, but they don't last when put to serious use.

Personally I like: Holsters by RGrizzle
I have two of his Georgia Snap holsters and they are fantastic. They require a little break in, but that just means extra practice on the presentation. This is a good thing.
 
I have a serpa and I am happy with it. Just need to practice drawing and proper finger manipulation. I also use it for idpa matches and for edc
 
I have only been a member for a week and already love this forum. It's become a routine now, i.e. home from work dinner with the family, help kids' w/homework, play time, kids to bed...then S&W Forum. LOL!

In any case, thanks for the holster tips and recommendations everyone. Much appreciated.
 
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Hi. I own the M&P40c (LE edition). No safety and no mag safety. I use the Crossbreed Super Tuck (IWB) holster. To boost my confidence, I practiced holstering and unholstering using a full size mirror at home. I loaded snap caps. After several "in and outs" I would squeeze the trigger and was reassured that the firing pin did not activate until I squeezed the trigger. Next step was to practice holstering and drawing the weapon at the range with a live round. The purpose of this drill was to make absolutely sure I kept my finger away from the trigger as I was drawing the weapon until I was ready to fire. Do this over and over again until you can do it without thinking about it.

Marcus
 
I third snap caps.

Hello Duster340,

My own .02 cents,

I am new to M&P pistol myself, so this more about new firearms as a whole. But it sounds as though this will be a carry weapon for yourself and you take the weapons seriously. I myself am really anal retentive on my carry weapons too.


I would agree with both Desertpilot and GKC. Definitely get yourself some snap caps. Try wholesalehunter.com for good prices. I will usually get enough snap caps to fill two magazines. Most come 5 or 6 in a blister package.

I put a different color dot of acrylic dye (nail polish works too) on each magazine so I can tell them apart. I will rack the slide till the clip is empty, I do this multiple times on each clip. If you observe any feeding issues you can note which color magazine is acting up for further investigation at a later time.


Now I have been wounded in an accidental fire incident due to bad stitching on a leather holster. I had always thought plastic holsters to be generic / cheapish, so I never paid attention to them instead always going with high grade leather holsters.


However, Maddmax recommended Kydex holsters, and after checking some out this last weekend I think I will never look back and go Kydex from now on for most situations.



I am not a LEO and have not had a boat load of presentation training. Thankfully I have had to only pull my weapon a few times in my life. Each time the cowards turned tail and ran. (Mental note..shooting them in the back is a no no lol)

However, the first time really freaked me out as I pulled with so much force (adrenaline and fear cocktail lol) I damn near dropped the freaking sidearm. Thankfully they feared the firearm and not the clumsy scared dunce fumbling his weapon. This was a 1911 clone and at that time I never upgraded or modified the grips. My hands were so sweaty. I have always paid attention to the grips since that incident. Thankfully the grips on the M&P are solid from the get go.


This is also where the snap caps really come into play. A trick I started to use with any new gun or holster is to take a dummy round (preferably snap cap so firing pin isn't stressed) and I would trim and glue a "cap" (think kids cap gun, usually a red roll of paper caps) over the spring primer of the snap cap.

Only do the round in the chamber and the top round of the magazine. Otherwise they will rub off and get stuck in your mags internals.

Anyway, me and my girl at the time took turns drawing. We would say "tango tango" and at that exact moment we would draw, regardless of our position etc. That cap going off was loud enough to make you cringe lol

She had a kid, so I kept my sidearm in a GunVault bolted to the side of the night stand. Drawing from that thing in the dark was a pain to learn without errors. I didn't get the deluxe version that had a light inside. The bedroom light switch was across the room.


I almost went and got one of those clapper things for our bedroom light lol. But after weeks of practicing I could enter the vault and retrieve the weapon with confidence in the dark and bring it to bear on the bedroom door.

Practice practice practice is my mantra lol

One last thing that is common knowledge but I will repeat cause I am an anal retentive prick lol, (and I will actually be asking this question myself later today.)

When you pick a defense round fire a good few hundred through it to make sure you don't have any feed issues. I know my 1911 clone had a good handful of manufacturers and models it couldn't reliably feed.

My glocks would throw almost anything down range, but still one or two they didn't like.

Too close, I echo Duster340's sentiment. This forum is absolutely fantastic. I can't tell you how many threads I have bookmarked already lol


Later folks,


CRS
 
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