Question about regulations.

[Wyatt Earp]

One thing that floors a lot of people is that the Ohio Revised Code allows citizens to apply for their CHL to the sheriff of their county of residence OR to the sheriff of any contiguous county.

Some Sheriffs, either due to workload or just because they may be anti gun, take all or most of the time allowed by law to issue a license.

So some entrepenurial Ohioan came up with this gem of a website called ccwhen.com that let Ohioans input the number of wait days for their CHL for their county of issuance to a database. The website then displayed, by county, the average wait and the number of people reporting.

So using that tool I found that my sheriff was taking on average 35 to 40 days to issue, while the sheriff of neighboring Champaign County was taking less than 5. So I went to Champaign County and got my license in three working days, even though I live in Miami County. And my license is good statewide, since we have firearm law pre-emption.

 

[Guest]

One thing that floors a lot of people is that the Ohio Revised Code allows citizens to apply for their CHL to the sheriff of their county of residence OR to the sheriff of any contiguous county.

You can add me to the "List of Floored Individuals". At one point in my life The Bride and I lived in "<span class="ev_code_RED">*</span>Martin Luther King, Jr. County" - previously(only for about 150 Years or so) known as "King County" - and my CPL came up for renewal during that time frame and it was a PITA!!!

When we moved out of the County and into the City I contacted the local County Sheriffs' District Office to report my change of address. They had "No Interest" in this information. But when I had applied for my renewal they did manage to drag their feet to the point where I became something of a PITA myself - after 5 weeks I began appearing on their doorstep two days a week. They finally came up with "it" off of somebodies desk. According to the date, it had been signed and sitting there for over four weeks. Of course, a written complaint to the Sheriff went exactly nowhere.

My last 'renewal' went through the City of Kent and it was mailed to me within a week of my applying for the renewal.

<span class="ev_code_RED">*I've often wondered just what this little 'name change' actually cost the County. I do know that they paid the "King Family" $250,000.00 as a flat fee for the use of the name. Rumor has it that they also pay an annual fee for the continued use but I think the "REAL" Cost came when they had to change all the things like Stationary, Contracts etc. over to the new name - not to mention ALL the County vehicles that are marked with this information!!!</span>

Us tax payers also got to foot the bill for changing all the Sheriffs' cars over to read Sheriff again when the Voter decided to make the change back to a Sheriffs' Office from a "Department of Public Safety" so the voters would again have a say in who the Sheriff was. I did think it was interesting that the first Vote held "Elected" the guy who had been the most recent "Appointee" to the position by the County Executive!

 

[cmort666]

Originally posted by Wyatt Earp:
It depends on the exact wording of your state's law.

In Ohio, our law states that you must carry the gun in a holster while it is on your person. You can carry in a pocket, so long as the gun is in a holster. I guess that's why they make pocket holsters.

Almost, but not quite.

Ohio law ONLY requires you to carry in a holster while the gun is ON YOUR BODY, and WHILE IN A VEHICLE.

If you're not in a vehicle, you can carry in your pocket without a holster or pretty much any other way you want.

I always use a Desantis Nemesis to carry my Smith Model 36, but it's only REQUIRED if I'm in a vehicle.

 

[Guest]

...but it's only REQUIRED if I'm in a vehicle...

I certainly hope your LEOs have read that part of the Ohio Laws better than most LEOs around the Nation.

I went through two different LE Academies and neither one of them covered the RCWs regarding "Carry" particularly well. As I had already had a bit of a run-in regarding the Laws on this subject I generally carried a copy of the Laws with me. As a Police Firearms Instructor; I also included a couple of hours of each of my Firearms Classes to cover this subject.

Just a few Years ago I had the chance to do a couple of Ride-Alongs with some of the local PD Officers. I was 'amazed' when I found out that the "Academy" hadn't changed in all the Years since I went through it. Both of the Officers I road with were Department Training Officers - one with 8 Years & the other with 10 Years on the job - and yet neither of them knew what the RCWs really says.

Do what you want; but I'd suggest you error on the side of caution and I'd use a holster all the time.

 

[cmort666]

Originally posted by KKG:
I certainly hope your LEOs have read that part of the Ohio Laws better than most LEOs around the Nation.

If they can't read it, my lawyer can help them.

The only firearm I have that's small enough to pocket carry is my stock (except for grips) Model 36. I wouldn't carry it without a pocket holster, if for no other reason, to keep the hammer from catching in my pocket.

That aside, the law is the law. I've got no duty to cater to the ignorance or indolence of others who should know better. If I were to buy into that, I'd have to open carry every time I drove because Ohio law USED TO require it.