Recent Acquisition: K-32 First Model

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Against all expectation, a K-32 First Model has at long last taken up residence in my safe: 675702, shipped May 24, 1939 to the Old Dawley Gun Store in Montpelier, Vermont. The order was placed on behalf of the Washington County Sheriff's Department, though an individual is not named in known documents. From state and local records we know that the Washington County Sheriff that year was Henry Curtis Lawson (1880-1959), who held the position from 1927 to 1953. It's probably a safe bet that he authorized the order.


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The revolver has been refinished, but with some skill. It appears to have been done elsewhere than the factory, as there is no star by the serial number or return date on the grip frame. On the other hand, this could be a factory refinish if the work was done in the 1960s or early '70s at a time when the factory was no longer marking guns returned for such service. The ejector star is completely blued, as is the beveled front face on the ejector rod knob. Rollmarks are still completely legible, though a little softer than the original markings would have been. The expected patent office marking is absent from both hammer and trigger, which probably indicates replacement. Hammer and trigger both retain what I believe to be the original case hardening. The excellent prewar magnas with patent-stamped interior medallion anchors are probably not original to the revolver, but are age-appropriate. The stocks are unnumbered and protrude slightly beyond the edges of the forestrap. I was told that the original front sight on the gun was a standard Patridge blade, and that the current McGivern gold bead is a replacement. The letter is silent on this point. As a big fan of the McGivern beads, I am not about to change it. I need to rephotograph the front sight, as the image I hoped to include at this time had upload problems.

This revolver first caught my eye in an on-line auction in 2011. I captured its serial number for inclusion in a data base of these rare models. This revolver was not at that time found in the roster of known specimens, and I am now walking around in amazement at the way circumstances managed to put both of us in the same room all these years later.

S&W production records for this model attest to 96 units produced in 1939 and 1940. A few more are known at present from special orders and conversions in the immediately preceding years. There is a possibility that a few more specimens exist that are at this time below the horizon.
 
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That is the first round barrel .32 SWL target I have seen. The refinish looks decent, but I can’t tell much from the pictures. It certainly gets you a hearty congratulations from me. I wanted a K32 for many years and finally despaired of ever finding one. I have a very nice “facsimile,” but it is nothing that would interest a collector. Nevertheless, it’s an exceptional shooter and I enjoy shooting it. But I digress. Congratulations on your new K32! :)
 
Hi David. It looks like Christmas came a little early for you. It’s wonderful when a piece like that “comes out of hiding” and even better when it comes into a home where it can be fully appreciated. I’m sure you will enjoy having it and give it the TLC it deserves. Congratulations, my friend!

Froggie
 
96 units and you have one of them> Outstanding. Wish I could have seen you walk up on it.

Actually, the gun sort of walked up on me. One of our forum colleagues was tuning his collection, remembered my interest in this model, and got in touch. I also acquired from him a prewar .22/32 Kit Gun in a rarely seen configuration that I will post soon. I am happy to extend my thanks to this individual publicly, but will refrain from mentioning a name. It is his right to identify himself should he choose to do so.

My current count of serial numbers from known specimens and factory records is 103. Not every known specimen is reflected in the factory summary.

The number of known specimens is about two dozen, a figure left fuzzy because of uncertainty about how to treat such oddities as a half-target K-32 (pinned front blade, but service rear sight), a .38 M&P Target converted to a .32 Long Target, and a K-32 First Model converted to .38 Special.
 
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Great gun David. I wanted to get your opinion on Roy's information in the book about this model. He first states that the K-32 was made from 1936 to 1941, plus he states that only 83 K-32 revolvers were made? I am guessing that some of these revolvers were standard M&Ps, not targets, but that would mean less than 83 were targets.

Have you been able to differentiate target and non-target pre-WWII revolvers in terms of how many were made of each?
 
Congratulations. They are scarce!



The patent office marking is absent from the hammer and trigger, which I believe is normal for revolvers shipped shortly before WWII.
I have never seen a pre-war 1930s gun without the patent markings on hammer and trigger. They disappeared during WW II production. Charlie Flick helped me nail it down to mid 1941. S&W supplied a heap of spare parts to the Brits and the US for the wartime guns, so hammers and triggers are plentiful. I have seen many boxes of 10 each.




The revolver at the top of this (and every) forum page just above the forum name is a K-32 First Model, but with the humpback hammer that is seen on other surviving specimens.

Only some of the skins we offer show that K-32. The skin selector is at bottom left of every page. ;)
 
Thanks, Gary.

I think the number of .32 Long K-frame Target models assembled during the second half of the 1930s will always be an evolving figure. When Roy Jinks and Bob Neal put together the list of 83 K-32 First Models in their 1965 book Smith & Wesson: 1857-1945, they established a basic roster from which I believe no unit has ever been excluded, though one of them has now been identified as something closer to a service model than a full target revolver -- 677992, which has the frame-groove service sight and a pinned front sight. (Search the forum archives for particulars.) I referred to this gun as a half-target above, though I expect some might argue with me about that classification.

At the moment, that gun is the only .32 Long K-frame revolver known to me from the late 1930s that does NOT have a fully adjustable rear sight. If more exist, I imagine they will need to be identified by discovery in the market or possibly through a gun-by-gun search of the shipping invoices for all established K-32 First Model serial numbers.

At some point (or points) in the 30 years following publication of the original list, 11 more K-32 Target revolvers were identified and added to the list of observed and documented specimens, bringing the total to 94. That was the number I first encountered when I joined the S&W collector community about 15 years ago. In the last several years, the asserted total in company records rose to 96 for reasons I have not yet nailed down. That number is within two of the total number of guns we might expect to have been shipped in the years 1939 and 1940 based on closeness of serial numbers and ship dates for other revolvers in the .38 M&P series. Nine remaining .32 K-frame target revolvers were delivered as special orders or assembled under special circumstances in the years 1936 through 1938. If the K-32 First Model gained the status of a regular production model beginning with the 1939 calendar year, that might help explain why company and enthusiast statistics are not in exact agreement.
 
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Congratulations. They are scarce!

I have never seen a pre-war 1930s gun without the patent markings on hammer and trigger. They disappeared during WW II production. Charlie Flick helped me nail it down to mid 1941. S&W supplied a heap of spare parts to the Brits and the US for the wartime guns, so hammers and triggers are plentiful. I have seen many boxes of 10 each.


Only some of the skins we offer show that K-32. The skin selector is at bottom left of every page. ;)


Thanks, Lee. Good information on both skins and hammers. My education continues.
 
Congrats on a great truly scarce gun!

I notice the rear blade seems on the shorter side.

As I have not ever held a prewar K frame in 32 long is the blade shorter than on a 38 special?
 
Congrats on a great truly scarce gun!

I notice the rear blade seems on the shorter side.

As I have not ever held a prewar K frame in 32 long is the blade shorter than on a 38 special?

[Original response deleted as irrelevant.]

The seeming low height of the blade is an artifact of angle of view. The top of the revolver is leaning a couple of degrees back from vertical, and the camera lens is a little below the gun's horizontal center.
 
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. . . I have never seen a pre-war 1930s gun without the patent markings on hammer and trigger . . .

An aside from the OP's topic, I have one revolver from the 1930s without a hammer patent. It does, however, have a trigger stamping. It happens to be a 38 M&P. #645174, delivered to Ed McGivern, shipping in 1933. Condition and case coloring are a match to the trigger and hammer is the correct style, just no patent?

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David,
The front sight question still remains. Is it my imagination (or cataracts) or is there a McGivern or Call Bead up there? With all the rest of its
'gorgeous-ity" the bead will have to stand out as the "cherry on top".
Froggie
PS In my foggy memory, I have visions of gold, ivory, and "red ivory"(?) beads. Is that correct?
 
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