Remington Nylon 66 - Mohawk Brown or Seneca Green?

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As a collector of the Remington Nylon series, I'm often asked what the difference is between the Mohawk Brown Nylon 66 and the Seneca Green model of the same gun. Quite regularly, someone will acquire an Apache 77 clip-fed "K-Mart special" that is quite green in color and think that they have the rare Seneca Green Nylon 66. There's quite a difference. The Apache 77 will be so marked on the grip cap, is clip fed rather than in-stock tube fed, have no white spacers, and will have black diamonds inset into the fore-end shanks. These were made between 1987 and 1989, a total of 54,783 having been made. They will command a premium of about 10 to 15% over the MB N66.

The difference between a run-of-the mill Nylon 66 Mohawk Brown and its comparatively rare Seneca Green counterpart lies only in the very subtle color differences of the stocks. The Mohawk Brown model is, well, brown. The Seneca Green model is also brown - sort of. The best way to describe it is that it is a green-tinged brown. As I say, the difference is subtle. Here are two comparative pictures of representative examples of each in my collection. The top one is Mohawk Brown, the lower one is Seneca Green.

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When you have them side by side, the difference is apparent. In dim light, viewing either of them alone (such as at a gun show), one can be mistaken for the other. So what's the difference?

The MB model is by far the most common model. 675,052 were manufactured by Remington between 1958 and as late as possibly 1991. The SG model is a fairly rare bird; 45,250 were made between 1958 and 1963. Values on both have been escalating in recent years, but the the SG model is by far more valuable - probably on the order of 2X compared to the MB. They were made in the early years, and attrition has thinned out the supply considerably.

Please don't ask me about values - there are too many variables; condition, year of manufacture, area of the country, presence or or not of an original box and papers, etc. I can only give you relative values, as above.

If you have your eye out for either of these Nylon 66s, I hope this comparison will be helpful to you.

John
 
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As a kid,I thought that the brown Nylon 66s were the coolest thing around. Inasmuch as I already had a perfectly serviceable .22 Marlin bolt gun my chances of getting one were slim to none.

That's ok; It took a few decades but I now have two--one a pretty minty one and a scruffy one I had to rehabilitate.

I still think they're cool.
 
I have two older brothers and they each got MB bolt action 66's for Christmas. When my turn came four years later only semi-auto was available. Boy, were they ticked!
 
I have two older brothers and they each got MB bolt action 66's for Christmas. When my turn came four years later only semi-auto was available. Boy, were they ticked!

From a collector standpoint, your older brothers got the more valuable guns. Here's a summary and a comparative value chart.

John

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had a brown one with no serial#. must have shot 10,000 rounds thru and never took it apart for cleaning. an old gunsmith told me they were a real chore to put back together.
 
I had one with a black stock, but blued, not nickled, parts. What did I have? I think it had white diamonds on the forearm.

I bought it new in the 1980's and had to sell about 1990.
 
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I have a 66MB with the matte finish on the receiver cover and also the
barrel. Barrel stamp is OH which looks like July 1987. I bought it NIB
at a gun show shortly after they were discontinued for $100. Way back
when, I had one of the bolt actions. I think it was the single shot but
can't remember for sure. I sure regret passing on one at a gun show
back in the mid 80s. It was the Gallery model in 22 Short with the
case deflector. It was used in excellent condition and the tag said
$150. I have never seen another one since.
 
I bought one w/paper route money when I was 12. My choices then were that or the Ruger 10-22.
Either was around $50 IIRC.
I got the Remington. It never lived up to my expectations,,what could really at that age! Even a C4 Weaver didn't improve accuracy.
It had a nasty habit of launching the mag tube while you were woods walking in the winter. A tiny bit of snow turned to ice in the mag tube notch made for insecure locking of the tube.
I always managed to backtrack and find the tube, but the precious 55cents/box ammo was gone in the snow.

I never did get a Ruger either. I didn't own another 22 semiauto till a couple of Winchester 63's many years later.
 
I have the N-A77. Bought it brand new at K-Mart in Shawnee, OK when they had them on sale. Mom had to come with me to fill out the paperwork because I wasn't quite 18 yet. I don't care what someone says it's worth, I wouldn't trade it for anything. ;)

John, thanks for your writeups. No matter how much I think I know, you always seem to have quite a bit more information than I do.
 
My first ever .22 semi auto was a Nylon 66 MB. Paid about $40 for it used.
NO maintenance of any kind, and was unstoppable. Never any sort of malfunction. Amazing rifle.
 
My first ever .22 semi auto was a Nylon 66 MB. Paid about $40 for it used.
NO maintenance of any kind, and was unstoppable. Never any sort of malfunction. Amazing rifle.

Still have it? Mine is going to my son.
 
I had one with a black stock, but blued, not nickled, parts. What did I have? I think it had white diamonds on the forearm.

I bought it new in the 1980's and had to sell about 1990.

You probably had the Black Diamond model, which had blued components with black diamond inserts on the forearm. You possibly might have had the CBC Nylon 66 clone made in Brazil; these had white diamonds set in black stocks, with blued metal components. Check the specs above on the Black Diamond and all the other Rem. variations. CBC guns were not as well made and not as valuable. These were made on used Remington tooling from 1984 to the early '90s.

John
 
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Thanks for the post...but I still have my very first firearm, a Nylon 66 Apache Black. Wonderful firearm.

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Same here...and I got in on my 12th birthday...the same day this post was started....I love that gun, load of memories with it.....:)

My wife enjoyed shooting it years later too. As did my Godson.....:)



 
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Great pics , SIP.
I got a 66 too. What a fine little carbine.I wish I would have bought them all at Ames ,( years ago ) when the store was about to discontinue gun sales .
 
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