Remington Rand WW II pistol

[Springfield Bob]

My pistol was made in 1945. I know Remington Rands were rebuilt for competive shooting and I think mine may be one of them. I have a Bormar rear sight with a national match barrel and bushing. It's a real accurate gun.
My gun has been re-blued and I 'm wondering if this was done perhaps by the military while they were over hauling the gun. Has anyone ever heard of the military doing this?

Thank you,

Bob

 

[feralmerril]

Bob, I have a remington-rand like you discribed. Only my deceased friend I bought it from said pachmyer did it. The grip frame front and backstrap are finely checkered and the gun is far more accurate than me. Reliable too, (So am I)

 

[rm06]

I'm sure there are many here eminently more qualified than myself to answer this, however, I don't believe the military used anything other than phosphate (Parkerizing) for refinishing small arms post 1918.

 

[Onomea]

Um, Feral? Maybe you could ask the wife to take a pic of your gun for us?

(It sounds like a very nice 1911, but kinda hard to see... Tell ya what, bein' a fair minded guy and a spendthrift, and you bein' a fellow forum member and all, I'll give ya $100 for it sight unseen! )

 

[Springfield Bob]

Remington Rand pistol

[Feralmerril, you could be right as it came with Pachmyer stocks on it. It does look like your picture. I only paid $ 75.00 for it from a fello LEO. I wore it as my duty weapon for many years and won my share of pistol matches with it. I was one of the first to use an auto in PPC matches.Thanks for tyhe reply.

Bob


P.S. it has the grip frame checkered as well.







=feralmerril;135538290]Bob, I have a remington-rand like you discribed. Only my deceased friend I bought it from said pachmyer did it. The grip frame front and backstrap are finely checkered and the gun is far more accurate than me. Reliable too, (So am I)

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[charlie sherrill]

I think rm06 is right. I've seen lots of "customized and accurized" WWII 1911's and I don't think any of them are period correct. Some of them made some real good shooters. Back when most of the alterations were done the folks that did them were looking for accuracy and not collector values. I also have seen some of them carried as dutyy weapons. You still have a nice gun. I'd like to shoot it.

 

[clubleaf206]

Singer was the only company to manufacture 1911s under license for the military that used the bluing process (and they only produced about 500 of them), everyone else used Parkerising. I feel pretty safe stating that your pistol was customised and refinished sometime after the war by someone in the private sector, not the military.

 

[dant]

I agre, there were MANY, many redone, customized ,upgraded to "so called "match" guns by anyoneone who was ever a gunsmith or an arorer in the service...also each branch built their own versions for their guys to use in the National matches.......most of this stuff was documented, but lots was were NOT...some of the gun books will show these military done versions and what is unusual to each of them, by the parts they used (sights,etc...) the service guns usually did NOT have 'ribs' on them, the Pachmayrs,Chow, Giles, ,and on and on, did ..........
from the ones we have had and seen by the military, they had 'Triangle, Drake, or Micro rear sights, and were always "parkerized", just how the military did things............at least the Air Force marked their guns.."AFPG" Air Force Premium grade.......all makes were used back then also, not just Remington Rand.......

 

[oldRoger]

I have a ’43 Colt, which was given to me by my Uncle who picked it up on the battlefield in France (3rd Army Area).
He kept a fair record of its travels up to the time I got it.
He used it in Post (mostly Fort Sill), Army and C. Perry Matches. Many post armourers “accuratized” it, and it went to Jim Clark more than once, lately it has seen Clark Custom for tune ups etc.
In general, as the rules permitted; adj sights, beavertails, etc. they were added.
Of course its collector value has long since gone, but as a pistol, it is no doubt much better than when he picked it up back in 1944.

 

[rm06]

Remington Rand, Ithaca and Singer all used Du-Lite bluing during initial production for WWII - Singer actually produced its run of 500 pistols prior to Pearl Harbor and our declaration of war against the Japanese Empire. Singer used the Du-Lite bluing method over polished steel, R-R and Ithaca first sandblasted the exterior before applying the Du-Lite finish. Both R-R and Ithaca later switched to the Parkerized finish.

Colt produced carbonia blued pistols early during wartime production and switched over to Parkerizing and later, another phosphate finish called Parko-Lubrite.

All armory-built and refinished National Match 1911-type pistols I've ever seen were done using phosphate.