Remington TAC 13

[daglockman]

So the addiction had to be fed, and this HAD to be added to the collection. Scooped up one of the new Remington TAC 13's, and it is no comparison to the TAC 14. The V3 action tames anything down to a very acceptable level, and as advertised it will cycle any type of ammo I could throw at it. Low recoil Remington 00 buck at 1200 FPS, Winchester Ranger 00 buck at 1145 FPS, Dove and Quail loads at 1225 FPS, Federal slugs at 1275 FPS, Remington high velocity slugs at 1800 FPS.... Ate it all up and spit it out. 86'd the Raptor grip for a foldable brace that changed this into a different beast all together. I took out the TAC 14 with it to run them side by side and there is really no comparison.

 

[Klagz13]

That’s cool. I have the Shockwave but haven’t shot it yet. I just wanted one because I could have it. May need one of those, tho. Don’t like pistol grips on the Mossbergs, they block the forearm release. How much do you have into that?


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[CustomChevyGuy]

I have a 870 tactical that I love. I'm just not sure how that offers much different than what I have. I wouldn't pass up a offer to shoot one though!

 

[shocker]

I'm glad that it measures 26" long with the brace folded.

 

[daglockman]

I have a 870 tactical that I love. I'm just not sure how that offers much different than what I have. I wouldn't pass up a offer to shoot one though!

I am very familiar with the 870 platform also and have loved it for decades. I never treated myself to a 1187 or anyother semi automatic shotgun for a long time. My first was a VEPR 12, and from then on it was all about semi-auto's. I still have the 870's ( tactical, Express Magnum) and a 887 nitro mag, but they are kind of a apples and oranges comparison in my opinion to semi auto's. The Versaport gas system system that Remington has now is very effective at reducing recoil. As they are similar animals, I shot the TAC 14 back to back with the TAC 13 using the same array of loads to judge recoil differences, and they were very noticeable.

One notable huge difference between the 2 is that the TAC 13 version is roughly twice the cost of the pump version.

 

[Dump1567]

Nice. I've been wanting one of those.

 

[Ματθιας]

I like that!!!

 

[KSDeputy]

I just bought a Remington V3 Tac 13. I am most impressed with it, though I haven't shot it yet. I had to sell the pump version due to an arm injury. I have owned Remington firearms since I was 12 y.o. They make fine firearms.

 

[daglockman]

I just bought a Remington V3 Tac 13. I am most impressed with it, though I haven't shot it yet. I had to sell the pump version due to an arm injury. I have owned Remington firearms since I was 12 y.o. They make fine firearms.

It is a great design to be sure. It will be much more forgiving that the pumpgun. Especially with loads like the Ranger or LEO reduced recoil loads.

 

[gdogs]

I'm glad that it measures 26" long with the brace folded.

Does it? That looks a little short to me. I upped the barrel length to 16" for my 12ga TAC-14 so I could go with a Pachmayr grip. I have a brace on my 20ga TAC-14, but not folded. It would definitely be short otherwise.

 

[Echo40]

Very nice.

I got a Mossberg 590 Shockwave for Christmas and I love it. These PGO Firearms seem to make fantastic close range Home Defense weapons.

 

[Cocked & Locked]

Nice Tac-13 daglockman!

I might get one of those someday soon. Until then I'll just stick with my Mossberg Shockwave.

I made a slightly larger front strap from leather and mounted a Crimson Trace Green Laser on a EGW rail. Laser is a game changer for the Shockwave.

Since taking this photo I've cut 2" off the front of that ugly overly long rail. It fits nicely in a non-tactical looking blue 29" long Bulldog case from Optics Planet. It's made a couple of road trips with me.

 

[JayFramer]

What?? So apparantly there are members here who’ve recently bought new production Remington shotguns that actually WORK??

But...but...the internet says all new Remingtons are worthless garbage and the only things worth buying are vintage Wingmasters and 1100s!!

All kidding aside, I’ve two recent Remys, one an 870P, the other an 1100 TAC-4. All I know is that both have never failed me and I’ve shot the “h” “e” double hockey sticks out of them. I trust my life to either, and have the 870 Police tucked in the corner as a home defense gun:

 

[Screwball]

What?? So apparantly there are members here who’ve recently bought new production Remington shotguns that actually WORK??

My main issue isn’t function... it is the crappy finish.

When I get done with training and complete the move, I’m sending my TAC-14 for plating. No more issues. [emoji106]

 

[Echo40]

What?? So apparantly there are members here who’ve recently bought new production Remington shotguns that actually WORK??

But...but...the internet says all new Remingtons are worthless garbage and the only things worth buying are vintage Wingmasters and 1100s!!

Remington is like Taurus, (Remington's current CEO is former Taurus International CEO, Anthony Accitelli, coincidence?) their issue isn't lack of quality, but rather lack of quality control and poor customer service. If you get one that works, then it will most likely continue to do so indefinitely provided that it is adequately maintained.

Unfortunately, folks are more likely to speak at length in regards to issues they have encountered, yet completely neglect to mention when everything goes according to plan, ergo if you base your expectations of anything on word of mouth, then 9 times out of 10 you will walk away with lowered expectations.
The only time that people in general have anything positive to say is when it completely exceeds their expectations.

In other words, folks in general only deal in extremes, ergo they only mention when something goes terribly wrong or so extremely well that it catches them completely off guard. If something merely works out alright without any surprises, then they're unlikely to mention it unless asked directly.
As a result, the vocal minority is the only voice out there and before you know it something has developed an undeserved reputation for failure.

If there is a lesson to be learned from this, then it's that the world would honestly be a better place if folks wouldn't take all the little things for granted that go right for them on average, and to be more vocal when things just plain work out for them.
It also wouldn't hurt for folks to exercise common sense more often, which would dictate that no business which produces an overwhelming majority of faulty products could ever remain active.

 

[Chief Wiggums]

OP
I suffer from the same addiction , and mine is hungry!
The great state of Ohio passed a recent bill that will legalize these short barrel shotties.

Questions:
why did you choose the TAC-13 vs.....
Tac-14
MB Shockwave 590

My desired use case for ownership , in order:
* Fun! shooting the living "schnockies" outta targets and misc stuff!
* SD at home as well as a travel gun
* Because I can now legally own one

By nature , my family is a MB family.
mainly 500's & a passed down thru generations Ithaca 37

thoughts , opinions and general feedback is welcomed by all
Have a great day folks, stay safe.!

 

[Echo40]

Personally, I chose the Mossberg 590 Shockwave over the Remington Tac-14 for the following reasons...

• Higher magazine capacity.
  The 590 Shockwave is 5+1 whereas the standard Tac-14 is 4+1.
  That being said, you can add a +1 extension to the Tac-14, which some models come with by default, namely the Hardwood model.
  
• Ambidextrous Safety.
  The 590 Shockwave has an ambidextrous safety switch on the rear just above the grip whereas the Tac-14 has a cross-pin safety. However, if you plan on fitting it with a brace, then that may actually be an advantage.
  
• Drilled and tapped receiver.
  The 590 Shockwave's receiver is drilled and tapped, thus enabling it to be easily fitted with a variety of different accessories. The Tac-14 is not drilled and tapped.
  
• Heavy-walled barrel.
  The 590 Shockwave uses the milspec Heavy-walled barrel, requested by the US Navy to mitigate the risk of the barrel being damaged from being slammed by the heavy doors onboard battleships. This has the fringe benefit of making the Shockwave more front heavy, thus functioning as a sort of counter-weight to reduce muzzle raise under recoil.
  
• More configuration options.
  The 590 Shockwave comes in a wide aray of configurations which has continued to expand since it was launched. The Tac-14 comes in fewer configurations. However, currently the Tac-14 comes in a configuration which is factory-fitted with a brace, whereas the 590 Shockwave does not. This is particularly advantageous for those who desire a brace, as it reduces the cost and eliminates the worry of whether or not the brace they have in mind upholds the firearms status as a "PGO Firearm" as opposed to a Title II NFA item or an AOW.
  
• Lighter weight.
  The 590 Shockwave is lighter than the Tac-14 due to having an Aluminum receiver. However, for those who prefer a Steel cylinder, this may actually be an even trade. Personally, I have absolutely no doubt in the strength/durability of Aluminum, so to me it's an advantage.
  
• Easier to field-strip/repair.
  The 590 Shockwave is much easier to field strip than the Tac-14 and is easier to repair as well. It would take to long to explain how, but it's easy to look up. Basically, the 590 was just plain designed with an easier takedown method and many internal parts are held in by screws, bolts, or pins as opposed to rivets in the 870 Series, thus making it easier to repair/replace parts.

 

[shocker]

Why the Mossberg? Palmetto has the 20 gauge
for $269. Lowest cost way to get in the game.

 

[Execpro]

I have been considering the Rem 13 but it is still a bit pricey. It should come down in price after the market gets saturated. I would like Remington to make one in 20 gauge.
Looking at a 590 shockwave in 20 gauge until they do. Maybe Mossberg will come out with a semi-auto also.

I have seen on other treads where the grip was replaced with a folding stock. Please help me out here,but my understanding is that if the stock grip is replaced with anything,it changes it from a firearm status to an illegal shotgun (Due to bbl being under 18”).
I would like someone to clarify this for me because I was considering doing the same thing if getting one later on.

Be SAFE and Shoot Often!

 

[Echo40]

It's okay to replace it with a brace, but if you attach any form of shoulder stock then it is automatically considered a Title II NFA item by the ATF.

The difference between a brace and a stock is that a brace is designed to be placed over the forearm to improve the stability of your grip, the fact that it can be pressed against the shoulder or cheek is an unintended coincidental capability, which may actually be grounds for prosecution, assuming that it could be proven that it was used as a rudimentary shoulder stock, but only one such case has ever occurred, and it was against a murderer who had already violated another regulation by illegally shortening the barrel of the firearm that said brace was affixed to, so at that point they were just trying to nail the guy with as many charges a possible.

If somebody slapped a folding stock on a Shockwave then it's either because they had already filled out the necessary paperwork and received the necessary tax stamp to legally convert it to an SBS or were otherwise doing so out of complete ignorance without knowing what they've done or the potential legal ramifications of their action.