Remove suppressors as an NFA regulated item

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Yes , the entire NFA of '34 is both pointless and unconstitutional. ( Seperate long story about the politics in '34 being skipped here.)

Chance of outright eliminating = zero.

A serious attempt to repeal totally would likely spur the anti's to call for more restrictions.

BUT there are low hanging parts ripe for reform.

CLEO signoffs have been obsolete since about a week after NCIC was created.

Form 20's can be eliminated , or if not greatly simplified.

The technical language and definitions confusing , quixotican and often contradictory.

Other than the concept of having a Tax Stamp at all , 80yrs of inflation have made it trivial compared the origional intent. The big hassle is the wait. The wait times are not linear or sequential. The form 1's and 4's are gathered into batches , then dropped as a stack on the particular examiner assigned to your state's forms. So forms mailed the same week could have a two month window to receive back. But 10 month-ish is recent. And that's just for ATF. For people filing as an Indivuals , there's the CLEO signoff. Of the one that will do so at all , they rarely would simply whip off a signature. They will typically do their own invetagation paralleling the ATF's . My local people who go that route , report 6 weeks to 3 months for CLEO signoff , before it can be sent to ATF.

My local assocates filing w/o CLEO report eFile having single digit week turnaround. IF the submission and aproval both fit within a window where the eFile system is actually working. It seems to be down more than it is ever up.

[ Back at supressors specifically] the main semi-legitiate concern was about illegal hunting. But suprise , that was the same argument anti-crossbow all those years. But with the huge increase of popularity and increases hunting opportunities in the past 5-10yrs , there is no corresponding increase in illegal hunting. The favored tool of poacher for 50+yrs ( probably 100, but let's be conservative ) has been .22lr rifles. Which in broad generalization has about similar noise signature as a supressed centerfire rifle.

The high prices of supressors are to an extent a USA thing. Due to the hassle in buying one , lots of buyers plan to ONLY buy one ever , and therefore want the absolute best-iest of all things very tiny , very light , and Hollywood quiet. In other parts of the world where they can be purchased over the counter , or with minimal hassle , they have different criteria - rugged, simple design, inexpensive , and sort of quiet. If one is hearing safe , or reasonably close , they declare victory. If components burn thru after thousands of rounds , they throw it away , and buy a replacement.
 
What about SBRs?. Those are no more harmful in the hands of the general public than is a standard weapon.

Why don't we remove these also?

Once again, the notion of all-or-nothing is a false choice. That said, I think the NFA should be repealed in it's entirety... just like I think the entire handgun carry permit scheme should be repealed in Tennessee. However, I live in the real world and will celebrate that Tennessee just made it legal to carry a loaded handgun in the car without a carry permit. I can do that without saying it was "pointless to argue" for unless we did away with all carry licensing requirements. We won, incrementally.

I'm good to go with SBR too. If you are asking why the case for easing restrictions on suppressors.... Like I said earlier, I think popularity is a factor. It wasn't that many years ago that the NRA was hostile towards suppressors and banned AAC from their Charlotte show because they didn't want to be seen in a "bad light". However, the rapid growth in suppressor sales has been changing attitudes. I think the case the NRA made regarding suppressors for health, safety and nuisance is good for public consumption and is a good opening salvo against suppressor restrictions.

Here is a good example of attitudes changing toward suppressors.

Excerpts from an interview with Kevin Brittingham of Advanced Armament Co.

In 2000 the NRA had their annual show in Charlotte, and we were a pretty young company then and I bought a table and was setting up to go there and about a week before the show they called me, someone from their executive office, and informed us that we could not set up at the NRA show. And the reason they gave was “we don’t want the news media focusing on your table and putting guns in a bad light.”

So I was the first person to get my lifetime membership money back from the NRA, and I was really pissed.

But to show how things are changing, at our silencer shoot this year the NRA actually set up a table and came to our event. And now at their federal level and their grassroots (the guy that runs that), they’re willing to help us to create better awareness about silencers and promote them, and get it to where all states are legal for silencers.

It seems like a new state opens up every year, we have most of them now. And to get states where we can hunt game animals with silencers. In Europe you can already do it, so we’re not as progressive as we’d like to think.


NRA Supports Silencers. Finally. | The Truth About Guns
 
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I doubt it will happen, only because I doubt the gov't would give up the revenue stream.

I admit, I'm a little cynical.

The other side of this argument is that the EPA could recapture the lost suppressor revenue by regulating sound pollution and fining those who do not use suppressors? I never cease to be amazed at the various ways the government devises to collect revenue.

John
Scoundrel and Ne'er-Do-Well in Training
 
The other side of this argument is that the EPA could recapture the lost suppressor revenue by regulating sound pollution and fining those who do not use suppressors? I never cease to be amazed at the various ways the government devises to collect revenue.

John
Scoundrel and Ne'er-Do-Well in Training

True, but they can't fine for not using it if they don't know u own any weapons to start with. In that case they would have to start the gun registration junk, and we all know how that works.

For that matter I'd rather just have to registerling 1 suppressor. At least then they can say I must have 1 weapon. But they have to clue as to the others I own lol.
 
I really doubt there is much revenue made from NFA related tax stamps. If anything I would find it easy to believe it is a money loser.
 
I agree wholeheartedly that suppressors should be removed from NFA regulatory oversight, and I want to support any movement to bring this about, but I balk at attaching my name to any pro-gun petition on a gov't website...especially under the current administration. I suspect many of us would avoid such a petition for this reason.
 
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