Right to carry (guns outside home) will be history!

[df53141]

Justices decline N.Y. case restricting guns in public

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The Supreme Court on Monday declined to consider whether the Second Amendment protects the right to carry a gun outside the home.
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"It's only a matter of time before the court decides whether people have a right to carry guns in public," says Adam Winkler, a UCLA law professor and author of Gunfight: The Battle over the Right to Bear Arms in America. "This is the biggest unanswered question about the Second Amendment."

 

[df53141]

Can someone explain the past history of owning and carrying guns in the 50's and 60's, even the 70's? Can you get AR-15 semi? how about automatic? Can you get CCW? how about open carry? Did you need permit to buy pistol in NYS, NJ, IL, back then? I understand between 1968 and 1986, there were restrictions on ammo purchase! But gun law was much less restricted back then, am I right?

According to Bloomberg: In 1981, just three states -- Maine, Washington and Vermont -- let typical residents carry firearms in public without giving a reason. Today, about 40 states do.
Is this true?
New York Gun Limits Intact as High Court Rejects Appeal - Bloomberg

 

[dougb1946]

The SCOTUS just said it's a states rights issue. You vote for state reps. Talk to them. Write to them. Frequently. Vote.

 

[df53141]

The SCOTUS just said it's a states rights issue. You vote for state reps. Talk to them. Write to them. Frequently. Vote.

This won't work, these states want to bring more freeloaders in so more people would vote democrats. I will never go to NYS and spend a penny on NYS unless absolutely necessary! Anyone who gets shot in public in NYS should sue the state for not protecting them because residents are not allowed to protect themselves!!!!

 

[HeyJoe]

big disappointment for residents in may issue states. even in current shall issue states, that right remains subject to the whim of shifting political tides.

 

[gm272gs]

When I was 10 years old, I used to carry my .22 single-shot bolt-action rifle to school and put it in a gun rack in the Principal's office, next to 5 or 6 others which belonged to my friends. All of these kids had 4 or 5 years of rifle shooting to their credit, and were taught safety first.

After school, we would pick up our rifles and walk to the dump to shoot rats. It was great fun, and the owner of the dump appreciated us taking care of the problem. We honed our hunting skills, everyone was a winner, and no one ever shot up the school or held up a liquor store.

Can you imagine a kid walking down the street with a rifle on a sling, these days? Hoo boy!

 

[66Park]

According to Bloomberg: In 1981, just three states -- Maine, Washington and Vermont -- let typical residents carry firearms in public without giving a reason. Today, about 40 states do.
Is this true?
New York Gun Limits Intact as High Court Rejects Appeal - Bloomberg

No, that is not true. I don't know all the states, but I lived in Georgia in 1981 and got a concealed carry permit. I didn't have to give any reason whatsoever. I had to submit to a background check and be fingerprinted, and then they gave me the license.

 

[VMaxSplat]

big disappointment for residents in may issue states. even in current shall issue states, that right remains subject to the whim of shifting political tides.

No sir! That is not correct.

"The right of the people to keep AND bear arms shall not be infringed". Several SCOTUS rulings have already upheld the obviously worded 2nd Amendment.

 

[HeyJoe]

No sir! That is not correct.

"The right of the people to keep AND bear arms shall not be infringed". Several SCOTUS rulings have already upheld the obviously worded 2nd Amendment.

read the article again. by not taking the case they have let may issue stand.

 

[Xtasy]

I don't understand how open carry can be illegal in my state of Florida

 

[Buffalohunter60]

Can someone explain the past history of owning and carrying guns in the 50's and 60's, even the 70's? Can you get AR-15 semi? how about automatic? Can you get CCW? how about open carry? Did you need permit to buy pistol in NYS, NJ, IL, back then? I understand between 1968 and 1986, there were restrictions on ammo purchase! But gun law was much less restricted back then, am I right?

According to Bloomberg: In 1981, just three states -- Maine, Washington and Vermont -- let typical residents carry firearms in public without giving a reason. Today, about 40 states do.
Is this true?
New York Gun Limits Intact as High Court Rejects Appeal - Bloomberg

I have lived in Nh for the biggest part of my life....and have always had firearms...rifles, pistols and shot guns. I have always lived in the country and have always carried openly when ever I wanted to with no problem. You could not carry a loaded firearm in a vehicle but could get a permit to carry a loaded handgun....never a problem to get a permit. I never open carried in town because I never felt I had a need to do that...and you are not allowed to discharge a firearm within the city limits (for obvious reasons) Firearms have never been a problem in NH and most of the people there own guns. We could own semi automatics....I believe you could get a fully automatic by paying $200 and getting the correct paper work. Never owned one as they suck up too much ammo.

 

[SMSgt]

I've spent a small fortune on tin foil since November.

 

[SMSgt]

I don't understand how open carry can be illegal in my state of Florida

Simple--it's not, it's only very restricted, but in turn the state is very liberal in its issuing of CWFLs.

 

[Nicksterdemus]

"This won't work, these states want to bring more freeloaders in so more people would vote democrats."

Sweet weepin' Hey-Zeus on the cross it's Jesse Ventura hot on the trail of another conspiracy theory.

Don't give up 'till you make 'em tap-out and demand a five count unless it's a lumberjack or steel cage match.

 

[ChattanoogaPhil]

According to Bloomberg: In 1981, just three states -- Maine, Washington and Vermont -- let typical residents carry firearms in public without giving a reason. Today, about 40 states do.
Is this true?

I believe what the Mayor is referring to is the sweep of Shall Issue across America regarding concealed carry permits. Here is an animated map. Notice that in the 80s the majority of states were either "No Issue" of "May Issue". No Issue is self explanatory. May Issue generally means at the discretion of the local authorities. In some states and locales May Issue could mean near impossible to get a permit or very easy. Now most all states are Shall Issue.

Radical Gun Nuttery!

 

[James&theGiant1911]

Can someone explain the past history of owning and carrying guns in the 50's and 60's, even the 70's? Can you get AR-15 semi? how about automatic? Can you get CCW? how about open carry? Did you need permit to buy pistol in NYS, NJ, IL, back then? I understand between 1968 and 1986, there were restrictions on ammo purchase! But gun law was much less restricted back then, am I right?

According to Bloomberg: In 1981, just three states -- Maine, Washington and Vermont -- let typical residents carry firearms in public without giving a reason. Today, about 40 states do.
Is this true?
New York Gun Limits Intact as High Court Rejects Appeal - Bloomberg

You have a lot of people through the depression era using Shotguns for food and handguns were a luxury item found within the major cities although some made in mainly rifles and shotguns. Do not know about ARs but they used a lot of Tommy sub machine guns back then and they packed quite a wallop. I still have some of the great examples of firearms that were available through mail order. All you needed was a Sears or Montgomery Ward catalog and you could order some great guns made by Fox BSE, Stephens and Thompson firearms just to name a few. It was not really all about the money back then so I guess if you were a felon it was do not ask do not tell. Some states allow open carry even today but many states especially those with a history of hunting require specific licenses and dates that you can do that with.

None of us, especially over the age of 30 have ever seen restrictions on gun control nor the type of environment we leave in these days. Before, we took a stance of isolationism and maybe that is what we are paying for today cause we have a lot of people who hate us. These people will not be happy until they see America fall and I never thought it would be in our lifetimes but we could be wrong. It could be in the next 5 years.

 

[Nicksterdemus]

" ... so I guess if you were a felon it was do not ask do not tell."

That seems to be the way it's handled here on felons hunting.

Andy Boyle ? Felons hunting with guns slip past state law

 

[Buffalohunter60]

Thats another thing that needs to be looked at...if the man is not a violent felon and he served his time...should he be penilized the rest of his life for a non-violent crime that he has paid his debt to society for? I would rather see him hunting and enjoying life than back down the wrong road...just my opinion. Remember...there are too many innocent people that have gone to jail.....and it does not take much to lose your right to have a firearm...have a GF or wife lie about what happened between you...and you will no longer have a firearm.......it needs to be looked at closer.

 

[Harrison]

Can someone explain the past history of owning and carrying guns in the 50's and 60's, even the 70's? Can you get AR-15 semi? how about automatic? Can you get CCW? how about open carry? Did you need permit to buy pistol in NYS, NJ, IL, back then? I understand between 1968 and 1986, there were restrictions on ammo purchase! But gun law was much less restricted back then, am I right?

According to Bloomberg: In 1981, just three states -- Maine, Washington and Vermont -- let typical residents carry firearms in public without giving a reason. Today, about 40 states do.
Is this true?
New York Gun Limits Intact as High Court Rejects Appeal - Bloomberg

I don't know what it was like in those eastern states. Where I grew up even as a kid I carried my .22 rifle all over the country side plinking cans, and down to local creeks plinking turtles and gar, As a 10 year old I could go to the local hardware store and buy 22s. Of course I grew up in a small farming community, not a big city. I even bought a rifle through the mail when I was 14. This was all during the mid to late 1950s. As I recall, the gun laws came about in the mid to late 1960s after the Kennedy assignations. The assignations were the excuses for the anti-gun laws.

 

[HereSinceTheLongHunters]

Guns weren't an issue back then... that was the section of the Monkey Ward and Sears catalog you always looked at... they were available at almost every hardware and sporting goods store. You could carry a rifle down the street no problem. Most guys were proud of their collections and displayed them prominently. The proliferation of hand guns vs. rifles was probably a part the change along with the decline of the WWII generation (Lordy I miss them, they'd have taken care of business by now) and less outdoor/country life....