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A lively discussion at dinner tonight covered many topics including Shaolin monks and the buckshot stopping abilities of highly developed muscles but the object of this thread is to figure out how common is the use of rock salt in place of shot in shotgun shells to use as a deterrent such as scaring off an animal? One of the folks in the group opined it must be common because they run into it in a some of the books (fiction) they read. I told them I doubted there is any significant underlying fact regarding what they were reading and offered to get the opinion of this forum.

So what say you guys? How many of you know first hand someone who has use salt rock shotgun shells as a deterrent?

I've never heard of anyone at this forum mention the use of rock salt shotgun shells. I've never run across anyone mention them. I seem to vaguely recollect a comedy situation in a TV show or movie that implemented salt rock shotgun shells. Surprisingly I did uncover one company that sells rock salt shotgun shells.
 
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STEALING WATERMELLONS.

According to Elvin Bishop, "shoulda heard me holler when that rock salt hit me. A Tale us kids told each other about the guy in the green jeep guarding the gravel pit, and farmers. Shooting children, even back then probly wouldn't go over well with parents. The salt is to inflict maximum pain if it breaks the skin. TOO cruel for animals, OK for humans IMO. Loading rice would sting some (I suppose), w/o serious damage(hopefully). I never tried loading salt. IMO I won't shoot to sting/hurt. If you shoot, you better finish the job. Strong muscles stopping buckshot??? You go first. :D
 
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No farmer I know would go to the trouble of emptying the pellets out of shotgun shells and putting in rock salt to scare away an animal. I was chatting with one of my buddies at his farm a while back and all of the sudden he yells out "Rita bring me a shotgun!" his wife comes out of the house and brings him a 20 gauge Rem 1100 and he peppers a dog about 50 yards away with birdshot. That stray dog had been going through trash cans and bothering his other animals for quite a while and if it came back again my friend probably would not be shooting birdshot at it.
 
Farmer17 said:
No farmer I know would go to the trouble of emptying the pellets out of shotgun shells and putting in rock salt to scare away an animal. I was chatting with one of my buddies at his farm a while back and all of the sudden he yells out "Rita bring me a shotgun!" his wife comes out of the house and brings him a 20 gauge Rem 1100 and he peppers a dog about 50 yards away with birdshot. That stray dog had been going through trash cans and bothering his other animals for quite a while and if it came back again my friend probably would not be shooting birdshot at it.
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I would not say anything about
Shooting a dog or cat unless
It had it's teeth in you ,you
Are looking for legal trouble
 
There was a bull dog in the little town where I grew up that caused all sorts of havoc from biting several people to killing smaller dogs, one of them belonging to me and my brother. The owner did nothing to correct the situation but I have it from a very reliable source that a 20ga. loaded with ice cream salt and a few bird shot changed that dogs attitude and actions. I know for a fact that when walking down the street he would never get close to anyone and would frequently look behind him. A smaller dog could walk by him with nothing to fear. No one ever knew who fired the shot.
 
My brother graduated from High School in 1969, to give you an idea of when this happened. One of the girls he liked to hang around was having a problem with male dogs around he pure breed show dog. So my brother takes a few High Brass Express #4's and opens the crimp and removes the shot. He replaced it with 1/4" rock salt that we had in the garage for the driveway the previous winter. He gave her the shells at school on Friday.

On Monday as soon as he saw her, she burst into tears and started screaming at him, which drew a crowd of students and teachers. He ask what was the matter? She responded that the "Rock Salt" ammo he gave her had killed the stray dog, in fact it blew the whole rear end off. While everyone was giving my brother the evil eye, he went ahead and ask, How far did you shoot him from? When she replied Six Feet, Everyone burst into laughter.

It doesn't matter what you put in a shell at that range, the wad alone could be lethal!

Ivan

When the boys were playing paintball at the farm, I took 2 used 12 gauge hulls and put new primers in them with no powder. In the wad I place 2, 69 caliber paint balls and crimped them and I took these out for a test, I shot them into an old out building that needed torn down. At 10 feet, the paint balls burst inside the barrels of my O/U and the pedals of the shotcup were buried in the wooden wall over a half inch! I would never dream of using them for play against people, but word got out. Our house was never toilet papered even though there was one boy in my daughter's class that made it his mission in life to paper the whole class's homes. When threatening/bragging to my daughter, another boy threw him to the floor and sat on top of him, yelling at him: " You've seen her father!, Don't you fear for your life?" As a matter of fact the next home had two pretty girls there, they got "Papered" several times a year. Never once at our place!
 
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Here's a pretty good explanation:


Rosalie Sorrels singing Utah Phillips' Rock Salt and Nails


[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QpseeKQh83c[/ame]


Rosalie heard Philips sing the song but Phillips was hung over and didn't even remember. Rosalie remembered.
 
Different time and place....

Somebody caught stealing from a farm got what they deserved if all it was was a buttfull of rock salt. It was a completely different time and place. There may be repercussions but protecting one's livelyhood in a rural area would carry a lot of weight and pressure would lead to putting it in the past. This wasn't getting burned by McDonald's coffee in the 1980s.
 
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Right at the edge of Albany NY where the Thruway exit 23 now stands back in the fifties we had a rock salt shooting farmer.

He was a very cantankerous old man and he raised apples watermelons and other eatables. He would shoot salt at you if he cought you on his property.

I never got hit but saw a few of my friends get hit. I never heard of him getting in any trouble over that. Then the Thruway bought,
AKA stole it using eminent domain, he went to live with one of his daughters and died a couple years later
 
Farmer17 said:
No farmer I know would go to the trouble of emptying the pellets out of shotgun shells and putting in rock salt to scare away an animal. I was chatting with one of my buddies at his farm a while back and all of the sudden he yells out "Rita bring me a shotgun!" his wife comes out of the house and brings him a 20 gauge Rem 1100 and he peppers a dog about 50 yards away with birdshot. That stray dog had been going through trash cans and bothering his other animals for quite a while and if it came back again my friend probably would not be shooting birdshot at it.
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I seen a stray beagle take two rounds of 7 1/2s from a 20ga 870 at about 15-20yds! He never bothered my female Chessy (in her pen) anymore!
jcelect
 
WHAT A GREAT SHOW & CHARECTOR.

Rudi said:
Granny on Beverly Hillbillies swore by rock salt and bacon rinds in her double barrel.
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FUN FACT: On roku you can get old shows like that. (BH's) In the first season the show was simply THE HILLBILLIES. Opening scene in the pilot Granny is sewing buttons on Elliemae's shirt, that keep popping off. :D
 
Rock Salt, Rice or whatever objects you play with in shotgun shells are very capable of putting out someone's eyes. A lot of this stuff is Wives tales and urban legend. The Idiots on You Tube will attempt to launch anything they they can get down a shotgun bore. Pull crimp on a shell and
dump shot. Then fill with rock salt, shoot and see what happens. It won't
be much. If fact put nothing in shell after you dump shot and fire it. You
don't have a blank if that's what you are thinking. Back in Black Powder
days anything you put over the powder charge would work as a projectile.
Not so with smokeless. Without weight of shot on powder it is the same as
fire forming a brass with no projectile.
 
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