Ruger Mk II Standard Problem.....help!

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Hello all,

I don't know if this is the correct forum but maybe it will be moved it not.

I inherited my Dad's Ruger Standard. He bought it around 1980 for home defense and it was the only handgun that he ever owned. It's basically a brand new gun with box and papers. I doubt that he shot it more than one time.

I have no problem with disassembly or assembly other than one issue. I cannot get the barrel to separate from the frame. I watched YouTube videos, read the manual etc. etc. but it won't budge. I've even tried the mallet treatment and I'm not going to hit the top/back of the barrel assembly any harder than I already have. Is there a trick to doing this that I just haven't discovered? Or maybe I should just forget about it since you can easily clean everything necessary without removal. Any advice or help you can give me will be appreciated.
 
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The Ruger MKii can be pretty darn tight the first couple times you take the grip frame off the action.
If it is new in box, why are you trying to take it apart ?
It would seem unnecessary.
I clean my Ruger MK pistols about twice a year at the most. (many thousands of rounds)
They are built like tanks and don't really have many issues.
I recommend mostly leaving it aone and shooting the snot out of it.
There is a RimFire forum that cover these Pistols very well.
 
once the mainspring is removed, place the upper on a thick towel on a strong table/bench edge. Grip the pistol frame and push down. the Mark guns are notoriously tight.....
 
My Mark III was pretty stiff the first couple of times, too. I had to learn not to be afraid to whack it. After a couple of times, it got easier.

Those guns are not real easy to take down. (The mag interlock on the Mk. III makes it a bit fiddlier). Fortunately, they don't need it very often.
 
I bought my MkII around 1980 too, and, as I recall, I had to rap it VERY hard with the mallet the first few times I disassembled it.

And I didn't like the gyrations of the reassembly, so a few years ago, I bought and installed the DrFrankenRuger Speed Strip Kit for the MkII. Makes disassembly/reassembly a breeze. Kit also comes with a 3.5 lb replacement hammer and trigger take-up bushing.

DrFrankenRuger - Ruger Mark ii iii 22/45 Pistol Accessories

That MkII is my favorite pistol to shoot (when I can get it away from my wife and daughters!).
 
Marshwheeling said:
My Mark III was pretty stiff the first couple of times, too. I had to learn not to be afraid to whack it. After a couple of times, it got easier.

Those guns are not real easy to take down. (The mag interlock on the Mk. III makes it a bit fiddlier). Fortunately, they don't need it very often.
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I got rid of the Mag interlock issue by purchasing one of these. Piece of cake to swap out and in addition, my mags drop completely free.

Ruger Mark III, Ruger 22 Pistol and 22/45 Removal Bushing
 
My stainless MII Bull barrel bought many many years ago is still hard to take the barrel off. The method mentioned above are the way,

Smack it off with a nylon or rubber hammer, tiz the only way:D
 
I bought a stainless standard MKII that had a red dot sight mounted. It is a tackdriver...put that dot on something and squeeze trigger...it is shot dead center. Went to clean it like my old one and couldn't the barrel off, even after a few taps with plastic mallet. Got to thinking...if I go to banging on it, is it going to mess up accuracy? Didn't want to chance it...I clean it with the barrel attached to the frame. I've ruined too many things hitting them with a mallet.
 
A big thanks to all of you for responding. Several of you gave me the "courage" to try the mallet again with a little more agression. It worked!

However, I must say that I enjoyed arjay's advice the most!

arjay said:
I use a rubber mallet on my tight one.A little anti seize on the tab and in the slot before reassembly will help too.
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hittman77 said:
Shoot it.
Clean the bore.
Repeat as desired.
Nothing else needed.
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It's still a gun and eventually it needs to be field stripped. Almost as bad as those who clam you do not have to clean a 22lr.. Folks avoid it when they do not want to learn how to take them apart. Once you do it it's not hard at all. (no they are not the easiest;))

I collected MI and MII's. I have taken apart many of them. Some were so bad inside it's a wonder they worked at all. Had to use tools to scrape out the junk before any solvent would even touch the stuff. The worst I every saw was a S&W 22A, pretty much needed a thin putty knife to scrape it out.!:eek:
 
Also, on a MkIII clean the loaded chamber indicator overtime you clean the gun.... when they get gunked up the gun will misfire a lot..... or, you can simply take it out. use a magnet to pull the pin, pull out the plastic flag, remove the metal part, reinstall the flag and pin.... it will no longer pop out on a loaded chamber, but will continue to run when dirty...
 
If the OP has a MII as per his first post then there is not a silly loaded flag thingy;) Why did they have to go and wreck a perfect gun with that thing." It's on their other semi autos as well.

At least on their revolvers they hid the lock under the grip and I doubt many people will take grips off to use it. Much better system then the SW "hole":rolleyes:
 
The standard is actually a MKI, with the european heel mag release..... but yes, through MKII, there was no LCI...

--oops, change to the button mag release was on MKIII, I mistakenly thought it was a MKII change--

I agree that the "gadgets" (i.e. mag safety and LCI) have helped to ruin a otherwise fantastic design..... used to be the weird mag release (I like them), and PITA maintenance were the only drawbacks to the Ruger 22 semis.... well, they fixed that!
 
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Glad to hear the OP got everything worked out. I'm one of those guys that when I get a new gun I have to field strip it so that I'm familiar with it. I recently purchased a new Ruger Mk III Target and took the whole thing apart and installed the Volquartsen Mk II accurizing kit which eliminates the mag safety. Honestly, I'm a relative newb to the handgun world, particularly semi-autos, and I really like the LCI - I don't wonder if there is a round loaded or not.
 
OK guys, let's back up. I think I misrepresented my gun on the original post. I know I said MKII Standard but after looking carefully, I don't think that's what I have. Reading from the original box I have a......
"Ruger Standard Pistol, Cat. No. RST4, 4.75 in Bbl."
Reading from the right side of the barrel assembly.......
"Ruger .22 cal. automatic pistol."
The serial No. is 15-0297X
And I DO have the Euro style mag release at the bottom of the grips.

Thank you Selmerfan as I am just like you. I have an internal need to be able to get all my guns apart and back together as per the instrution manuals. If I can't do this then something is wrong. Thanks again for all your help.
 
Have fun taking the entire thing apart - trigger, hammer, sear, etc. etc. down to the bare frame. I didn't find it nearly as bad to put together as some folks apparently think it is - but I do almost all of my own mechanic work on vehicles and small engines, my saxophones, and can take all of my guns apart, top to bottom, and put them back together. It takes some time, but it's worth it to me to know exactly how stuff works. And when you're "stuck" there are some very good youtube videos out there, but you have to find good ones and wade through the bad ones...this is the best one I have found for taking it apart and putting it back together, start to finish, though they start the dis-assembly after the basic field strip. Have fun! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UXe_Cv3QZaM
 
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