S & W 27-2 question???

[AC Man]

I recently picked up a unfired as new in original box. papers, and tools and packaging. It is a 5" barrel blued with a S prefix serial number.

My question is it has the large factory target grips. but standard grooved trigger and hammer.

How does this effect the resale price if any. I didn't care, but what say you?

Thanks!

 

[Doc44]

If the target stocks are original and correct, they will increase the value of the 27-2 by a couple of hundred dollars. What is written in the stock box on the end label, T or S?

Bill

 

[Retired W4]

If it is a 2 piece Bangor Punta box it will have a label on the side with a "stock" block. If it's marked T that might help with resale value as the targets would be original to the gun.

Regardless, I like the 5" N frame 357's. Diamond around the escutcheon couldn't hurt. Just my $0.02. Others here would know more about how they were typically shipped.

 

[Doc44]

This Model 27-2, S311707, shipped on October 8, 1968 with non-diamond Magna stocks made of American walnut. I wanted to shoot this revolver so I put the diamond targets on it that are shown in the photo below (click on the photo for a better look). If I was to sell this revolver with the TS on it, I would increase the asking price by $250.

Bill

 

[Retired W4]

That's one heck of a shooter!

 

[Abbynormal]

You hit a niche jackpot. TT, TH's are preferred in longer barrels. For a carry protection gun, the TT/TH is a PITA when shooting DA. My favorite M27-2 was a 6" with no TT/TH
The 5" was the preferred barrel length for a carry gun by the legendary gun writer and SW lawman Skeeter Skelton.

the 3-1/2 & 5" seem to be the most desired sizes and have the highest values.

 

[AC Man]

If the target stocks are original and correct, they will increase the value of the 27-2 by a couple of hundred dollars. What is written in the stock box on the end label, T or S?

Bill

Box says "S"

Listing on Gunbroker says the following.

BOX, PAPERS, TOOLS, AND ORIGINAL FACTORY BLACK WASHER GONCALO ALVES CHECKERED TARGET STOCKS. Offered at .01 penny start and NO RESERVE. C&R OR FFL REQUIRED

 

[JP@AK]

Box says "S"

Means it shipped with Magna stocks.

Therefore, this:

ORIGINAL FACTORY BLACK WASHER GONCALO ALVES CHECKERED TARGET STOCKS

is not correct.

 

[AC Man]

Well I only bought one new gun with those tiny magnas, I had them swap them out to full size target grips when I bought it. Still have the original magnas if anyone wants them.

The grips were not the question, sorry if I was not clear. Question is how much does it hurt the N frame 357 magnum without the target trigger and hammer? Odd they would not all be. Why make a smaller trigger and hammer?

 

[Glashaus]

Well I only bought one new gun with those tiny magnas, I had them swap them out to full size target grips when I bought it. Still have the original magnas if anyone wants them.

The grips were not the question, sorry if I was not clear. Question is how much does it hurt the N frame 357 magnum without the target trigger and hammer? Odd they would not all be. Why make a smaller trigger and hammer?

If you want to get rid of the Magnas I could use them on my 3 1/2" M27-2

 

[Muley Gil]

Well I only bought one new gun with those tiny magnas, I had them swap them out to full size target grips when I bought it. Still have the original magnas if anyone wants them.

The grips were not the question, sorry if I was not clear. Question is how much does it hurt the N frame 357 magnum without the target trigger and hammer? Odd they would not all be. Why make a smaller trigger and hammer?

The smaller, standard trigger and hammer were just that, standard. The larger target triggers and hammers came about because target shooters had custom gunsmiths create them. S&W saw the demand and made their own.

For many, many years, target shooters shot in the single action mode-cocking the hammer and squeezing the trigger, using one hand only.

 

[rbmac52]

Some shooters, myself included, prefer the standard trigger (.265" width, grooved) or the smooth standard trigger (.312" width) to the .400" or .500" wide target triggers. These standard triggers are better suited to double action shooting, IMO.

Target hammers are fine for controlled single action shooting, as they are easier to grasp with the thumb to cock the gun. Personally, I prefer the .375" semi-target hammer to the full-width .500" target hammer as it is just as easy for me to cock the gun, yet provides less drag on clothing when drawn from concealment.

A lot of people equate the target hammers and triggers as "better" because they are/were standard equipment on S&W's premiere big bore Magnums (i.e.; the .41 Magnum, and the .44 Magnum). Many of my guns have them, but I don't prefer them.

 

[Retired W4]

As you can tell by the posts above, trigger/hammer size is a matter more of personal preference than value.

 

[Doc44]

Since the 27-2 shipped with a standard hammer and trigger, sale value would not be affected.

Bill

 

[AC Man]

Thanks for all the info. All of my collection 41 and 44 N frame have the target grips, trigger, and hammer. When I started on the 357 is when I started seeing the magna grips. I can see it on a K frame or going back to a model 10 but a 357 N frame with a 8 3/8 barrel target trigger, target hammer, and Magna stocks which I own seems ridiculous LOL Oh well, I love them all!

 

[Retired W4]

Some think targets in a 3 1/2" N frame 357 is an odd fit. It's all about personal preference.

 

[Nightowl]

Target hammers and triggers and target stocks were not standard on Model 27s until September 1975. Before then the standard .265 grooved trigger, semi target hammer and Magna stocks were the set up that shipped, also in the cardboard box.