S&W CS9?
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There are a couple of other threads about this, one going on right now. I'll say that I have both and prefer the CS9 only because it's slightly smaller. Either one is a fine self defense pistol.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/237390-cs9-questions.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/218207-need-some-info-cs9.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/132652-comparison-pics-cs9-vs-m-p9c.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/201047-chief-special-9mm-questions.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/235350-cs9-new-me.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/235038-cs9-mag-extension.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/206268-my-cs9-joy-shoot.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-.../189548-your-thoughts-cs9-chiefs-special.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/218168-s-w-cs45-tell-me-everything.html
There are a lot more CS9 thread topics having to do with more technical questions, and a LOT more threads on the CS45 (although I tossed a CS45 thread in that list just for your reading enjoyment).
Suffice to say the CS9 was a dandy little subcompact 9mm made in the 3rd gen model line. I have a CS45 & CS9, the CS45 being older. I've long since lost count of the rounds I've fired through them, but it's a fair amount. If I were only going to keep one of them, it would be the CS9.
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/218207-need-some-info-cs9.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/132652-comparison-pics-cs9-vs-m-p9c.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/201047-chief-special-9mm-questions.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/235350-cs9-new-me.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/235038-cs9-mag-extension.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/206268-my-cs9-joy-shoot.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-.../189548-your-thoughts-cs9-chiefs-special.html
http://smith-wessonforum.com/smith-wesson-semi-auto-pistols/218168-s-w-cs45-tell-me-everything.html
There are a lot more CS9 thread topics having to do with more technical questions, and a LOT more threads on the CS45 (although I tossed a CS45 thread in that list just for your reading enjoyment).
Suffice to say the CS9 was a dandy little subcompact 9mm made in the 3rd gen model line. I have a CS45 & CS9, the CS45 being older. I've long since lost count of the rounds I've fired through them, but it's a fair amount. If I were only going to keep one of them, it would be the CS9.
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I have a CS9 and a CS45. The CS9 is pretty much everything you could want in a small 9mm. It has a safe and smooth double action first pull with double strike capability. The subsequent shots are smooth, crisp break single action pulls with short reset. It has a thumb safety with decocker. Some CS9's have ambidextrous safety. The slide release is a true release and not just a slide stop and easily releases the slide. It is easy to maintain and clean with stainless slide and stainless barrel. I really like the low profile Novak sights. The CS9 is very accurate. More accurate than any other small 9mm I think. I discovered the CS9 S&W Gen 3 pistols by accident about a year ago and now own the CS9, CS45, 3913, and 3913NL. Also own a 686P. I think the Smith Gen 3 pistols are some of the best guns you can own. I intend to buy a few more.
I have a CS9 and a CS45. The CS9 is pretty much everything you could want in a small 9mm. It has a safe and smooth double action first pull with double strike capability. The subsequent shots are smooth, crisp break single action pulls with short reset. It has a thumb safety with decocker. Some CS9's have ambidextrous safety. The slide release is a true release and not just a slide stop and easily releases the slide. It is easy to maintain and clean with stainless slide and stainless barrel. I really like the low profile Novak sights. The CS9 is very accurate. More accurate than any other small 9mm I think. I discovered the CS9 S&W Gen 3 pistols by accident about a year ago and now own the CS9, CS45, 3913, and 3913NL. Also own a 686P. I think the Smith Gen 3 pistols are some of the best guns you can own. I intend to buy a few more.
I had a power outage (electrical not cerebral) during my reply, but I see that fastbolt picked up my slack. His vBulletin foo is strong.
eshap2
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S&W CS9 3913
i have both weapons and it is a toss up. both are exceptional weapons and i switch what i carry every day. you can' lose with either.
i have both weapons and it is a toss up. both are exceptional weapons and i switch what i carry every day. you can' lose with either.
FWIW, when I only owned a late production 3913, I had little interest when the CS9's were released. I had a friend that bought one of them when they were only available in blue, in the early configuration (plastic sights, single side safety/decocker). I think he picked it up for something like $269-$279 (with a CS45 at the same time for the same price). I didn't shoot it, but I inspected it when he brought it to me. Seemed nice enough. Small. I remember thinking it was a big grip frame for a small gun (although the Hogue stocks were nicely hand-filling).
It wasn't until another instructor bought one and let me try it for a few range sessions (alongside my 3913) that I realized that it was a handy, well-balanced and surprisingly accurate little pistol. It easily rivaled the practical accuracy of my 3913.
The grip's fatter, more curved stocks and shorter slide/barrel gave it a unique balance in the hand. The weight was more rearward over my hand, versus the 3913's heavier slide putting more weight just forward of my hand. The stout little hammer spring and different grip made for a little different trigger pull, but not necessarily in a bad way. Just different.
The CS9 didn't seem to have any problem feeding & firing any of the regular ammunition in use for training and/or duty at my agency at different times, which included 147gr JHP, 115gr JHP/FMJ, 115gr +P+, 124gr +P & 127gr +P+. The felt recoil was a bit sharper than with the 3913, with seemingly faster cycling (less slide weight and a rather short, flat-wound recoil spring). Fast & brisk ... but with similarly fast return-to-target, and the Hogue grips stocks easily soaked up any felt recoil. No stinging in the hand.
The funny thing is that I'd originally bought a CS45 first (just because it was the smallest .45 S&W had ever made), and while it was a fine little TDA .45, the slightly fatter grip and the level of felt recoil in the CS45 didn't make it one of my favorite .45's to shoot a lot ... at first.
My original model 4513TSW enjoyed more range use for quite a while.
Sure, over the years I've subsequently lost track of the rounds I've fired through the CS45. It became a gun that I took to use when working range sessions simply because it wasn't a "favorite". I wanted to make it work as well for me as the larger .45's I used.
Once I'd picked up the CS9, though, that quickly became the pistol I reached for when wanting to train/practice with a diminutive pistols that was an enjoyable & accurate range gun, as well as a light and easy-to-carry 9mm.
My 3913 started seeing increasingly less range time in favor of the CS9.
Over the ensuing years I've made myself pretty much rotate usage of the little 3rd gens, alongside the Glock subcompacts, as well as the excellent SW999c, so they all see a fair number of rounds as they're used for range sessions.
That little CS9 is still one of my all-time favorites.
I'd have a hard time choosing between the 3913, CS9 & SW999c if I were only going to keep ONE of the S&W's, though.
The SW999c has a better trigger and grip profile/ergonomics than either the 3913 or the CS9, but the little 3rd gen 9's are still about as close to state-of-the-art as anybody's ever achieved when it comes to a metal-framed TDA compact/subcompact, at least to my way of thinking.
If pressed, I'd suggest the 3913 is probably an easier gun for more shooters to use, while the CS9's lighter weight and slightly increased felt recoil might be better utilized by a more experienced shooter. Dunno.
Just some thoughts, since this thread is still going ...
I don't have the answer which is "better", though the CS9 or the 3913. You'll notice I still own BOTH.
It wasn't until another instructor bought one and let me try it for a few range sessions (alongside my 3913) that I realized that it was a handy, well-balanced and surprisingly accurate little pistol. It easily rivaled the practical accuracy of my 3913.
The grip's fatter, more curved stocks and shorter slide/barrel gave it a unique balance in the hand. The weight was more rearward over my hand, versus the 3913's heavier slide putting more weight just forward of my hand. The stout little hammer spring and different grip made for a little different trigger pull, but not necessarily in a bad way. Just different.
The CS9 didn't seem to have any problem feeding & firing any of the regular ammunition in use for training and/or duty at my agency at different times, which included 147gr JHP, 115gr JHP/FMJ, 115gr +P+, 124gr +P & 127gr +P+. The felt recoil was a bit sharper than with the 3913, with seemingly faster cycling (less slide weight and a rather short, flat-wound recoil spring). Fast & brisk ... but with similarly fast return-to-target, and the Hogue grips stocks easily soaked up any felt recoil. No stinging in the hand.
The funny thing is that I'd originally bought a CS45 first (just because it was the smallest .45 S&W had ever made), and while it was a fine little TDA .45, the slightly fatter grip and the level of felt recoil in the CS45 didn't make it one of my favorite .45's to shoot a lot ... at first.
My original model 4513TSW enjoyed more range use for quite a while.Sure, over the years I've subsequently lost track of the rounds I've fired through the CS45. It became a gun that I took to use when working range sessions simply because it wasn't a "favorite". I wanted to make it work as well for me as the larger .45's I used.
Once I'd picked up the CS9, though, that quickly became the pistol I reached for when wanting to train/practice with a diminutive pistols that was an enjoyable & accurate range gun, as well as a light and easy-to-carry 9mm.
My 3913 started seeing increasingly less range time in favor of the CS9.
Over the ensuing years I've made myself pretty much rotate usage of the little 3rd gens, alongside the Glock subcompacts, as well as the excellent SW999c, so they all see a fair number of rounds as they're used for range sessions.
That little CS9 is still one of my all-time favorites.
I'd have a hard time choosing between the 3913, CS9 & SW999c if I were only going to keep ONE of the S&W's, though.
The SW999c has a better trigger and grip profile/ergonomics than either the 3913 or the CS9, but the little 3rd gen 9's are still about as close to state-of-the-art as anybody's ever achieved when it comes to a metal-framed TDA compact/subcompact, at least to my way of thinking.
If pressed, I'd suggest the 3913 is probably an easier gun for more shooters to use, while the CS9's lighter weight and slightly increased felt recoil might be better utilized by a more experienced shooter. Dunno.
Just some thoughts, since this thread is still going ...
I don't have the answer which is "better", though the CS9 or the 3913. You'll notice I still own BOTH.
Maddog 521
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I have been looking for a CS9 for a long time. In the meantime I bought a 3914. Maybe some day I'll get lucky and come across one.
talionstallion21
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I have both and like both but if I could only have one it would be the cs9. Mine's a cs9d and it took 6 months to find one. Good luck with your search!
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