S&W Model 10-14 2024 Manufacture - Which non-ammoniated cleaner?

[38SPL HV]

Don’t use Hoppes 9 on todays S&W blued revolvers. S&W confirmed this verbally and notes such in their owners manual. Hoppes 9 will blemish the bluing. I’ve used Hoppes 9 on all my older S&Ws with no problems. Today’s EPA restrictions have required S&W to use a different bluing process…which in turn makes their revolvers susceptible to damage when using ammoniated and other strong alkaline solvents.

What solvents would you recommend other than an ammoniated or high alkaline one when cleaning these revolvers? I was thinking of G-96 Gun Oil liquid or spray.

Appreciate your suggestions

Thank you friends

 

[toad67]

Bore Tech is all I use.

 

[Beju]

The Bore Tech Eliminator bore cleaner, Copper Remover, and Carbon remover are advertised as being ammonia free.

 

[chief38]

I use G96 Synthetic CLP (in the yellow and red bottle). Lately I have been buying 1 liter bottles directly from G96 - much much more cost efficient! It works as good or better than Break Free CLP as a lubricant and preservative but I have noticed that it also cleans a bit better over the 2 years I have been using it. G96 will not harm any firearm regardless of age or brand.

Of course a 3 in 1 will never clean quite as thoroughly as a designated sole purpose bore cleaner, but if you clean your guns after each range session they never get that dirty to begin with. All my blued guns have the traditional bluing in them so when I have a very long day at the range and my revolvers get really dirty, I use Hoppes 9. Hoppes 9 (even the old original version) will never harm the old bluing. I have no idea what Hoppes might do to the new finishes S&W now uses so I would listen to what they are recommending.

 

[TAROMAN]

MPro 7, Ballistol, G96 to name just a few.
Great grandpa's Hoppes has been a no go for many years.

 

[Beju]

MPro 7, Ballistol, G96 to name just a few.
Great grandpa's Hoppes has been a no go for many years.

G96 CLP should be fine (I use it myself), but G96 Bore Solvent has 2-aminoethanol and ammonium oleate, so it might be risky on his revolver.

 

[shawn mccarver]

I think Hoppes now makes an "Elite" variation without the ammonia. That said, if I cannot use traditional Hoppes No. 9, I use Break Free CLP. Never had an issue.

 

[minconrevo]

Hoppe's formula has changed over the years. That old bottle, with the raised letters and old style non-Zip label, contains a different formula. I think we can expect changes over time in other long time gun cleaning products. Balistol works pretty well on a number of gun and related products. I do not advise using it with other cleaning products however.

 

[Model 15-4ever]

I've been using Shooter's Choice MC#7 as a solvent for 30 years on all firearms, including my 2022-23 production Model 10-14 and 36-10, without any issues.

If you are a Hoppe's brand loyalist, the Hoppe's Elite is basically the same product.

I prefer to use a dedicated solvent and a dedicated lubricant, rather than the all-in-ones that do neither job very well. I also prefer the effectiveness of petroleum distillates to other types of products.

Ballistol is an entity unto itself, and if you enjoy the smell of a monkey's rear end, perhaps you would like that product.

Getting the lead out of the revolver is the main issue. Hoppe's Number 9 is a great lead remover, but it does do a bad number on the bluing of the new guns. Shooter's Choice "Lead Remover" is basically Hoppe's Number 9. I would not use either on the newer guns.

For the cylinder face, a Birchwood Casey Lead Remover cloth or a bronze toothbrush and the Shooter Choice MC#7 or Hoppe's Elite will get it out with minimal ill effects. The bore can be scrubbed with these cleaners and a bronze brush wrapped with a few strands from a Chore Boy cleaning pad.

The new bluing is also not as durable. To touch up the cylinder face if you like to keep it looking blue, Birchwood Casey Gun PermaBlue Creme in the tube works very well.

 

[38SPL HV]

I've been using Shooter's Choice MC#7 as a solvent for 30 years on all firearms, including my 2022-23 production Model 10-14 and 36-10, without any issues.

If you are a Hoppe's brand loyalist, the Hoppe's Elite is basically the same product.

I prefer to use a dedicated solvent and a dedicated lubricant, rather than the all-in-ones that do neither job very well. I also prefer the effectiveness of petroleum distillates to other types of products.

Ballistol is an entity unto itself, and if you enjoy the smell of a monkey's rear end, perhaps you would like that product.

Getting the lead out of the revolver is the main issue. Hoppe's Number 9 is a great lead remover, but it does do a bad number on the bluing of the new guns. Shooter's Choice "Lead Remover" is basically Hoppe's Number 9. I would not use either on the newer guns.

For the cylinder face, a Birchwood Casey Lead Remover cloth or a bronze toothbrush and the Shooter Choice MC#7 or Hoppe's Elite will get it out with minimal ill effects. The bore can be scrubbed with these cleaners and a bronze brush wrapped with a few strands from a Chore Boy cleaning pad.

The new bluing is also not as durable. To touch up the cylinder face if you like to keep it looking blue, Birchwood Casey Gun PermaBlue Creme in the tube works very well.

EXCELLENT information my friend! Appreciate the time to help me out…these new Smith’s are too temperamental I suppose.

 

[stansdds]

Lead Away cloth is a cloth that is impregnated with a mild abrasive, use with caution as it will remove any form of blueing/finish and will polish stainless steel.