Safariland "dog ear" holster
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OMCHamlin
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So that's not a thumb break? If you scratch behind it, what happens? 
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OMCHamlin look at Wally Wolfram thread post #9 shows how a "dog ear"
looks from behind.
looks from behind.
OMCHamlin
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Yeah, I've seen those, it was an intro to a lame @$$ joke... (Dog Ear? Scratch behind it?)
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Sorry OMCHamlin I'm a little slow in my old age. I get it now. Thanks
for the explanation.
for the explanation.
OMCHamlin
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No Mac it's not a thumb break. It's a hammer protector, hammer shroud,
clothing protector, hammer shield, or "dog ear". Many names, but all of
them mean the same thing.
clothing protector, hammer shield, or "dog ear". Many names, but all of
them mean the same thing.
That's a Hank Sloan style holster, originally designed for the FBI by the iconic agent and firearms instructor. Valuable holster . . .
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No, no,no. It goes way back to the 30s by an unknown creative holster
maker. My guess is Wally Wolfram. Both Myres and Heiser offered it
by 1950. Almost everyone since then. Sloan got his patent for the
adjustable welt and his very popular holster had the hammer protector on
it, so many think he originated it. But his was in the 60s and there were
many before. See previous posts with input from turnerriver and Red
Nichols.
maker. My guess is Wally Wolfram. Both Myres and Heiser offered it
by 1950. Almost everyone since then. Sloan got his patent for the
adjustable welt and his very popular holster had the hammer protector on
it, so many think he originated it. But his was in the 60s and there were
many before. See previous posts with input from turnerriver and Red
Nichols.
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No offense, but you're getting your threads mixed up and confusing people who are reading this thread. There are no previous posts by Red Nichols and turnerriver in this thread. Their comments on Wolfram holsters are over here in this thread. And maybe some other thread that I haven't found yet, who knows.
It's a simple matter to link to your other threads and discussions, and it'll make it easier for members to keep up with your discussions and train of thought.
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No, it is not. There is no snap or other retention device on the holster.
As far as "cutesy" names go, it's no worse than Bianchi's "Lawman" or Safariland's "Black Widow" or "Shadow" or "Pirhana". Or El Paso Saddlery's "Yaqui Slide". Yaquis are Indians. Did they invent the holster way back when? What makes it a "Yaqui" Slide?
Manufacturers like to name their products. It's a marketing tool. What's the big deal?
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watchdog and others: If interested in this type holster there is historical
discussions including input from turnerriver, Lefty Lewis, and Red Nichols,
who are all much more expert than I. Some of their information is on
current threads I started here: Wally Wolfram holsters and Milt Sparks 200AW are two of them, but there are many other threads on this forum that touches on these type holsters.
discussions including input from turnerriver, Lefty Lewis, and Red Nichols,
who are all much more expert than I. Some of their information is on
current threads I started here: Wally Wolfram holsters and Milt Sparks 200AW are two of them, but there are many other threads on this forum that touches on these type holsters.
Well, I love holsters, but there's too many threads going on about too many different but similar holsters and too much cross-information and cross-referencing for me to keep up with. You're makin' my head spin.
I'll go back to reading about guns.
Have fun.
I'll go back to reading about guns.
Have fun.
rednichols
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It is a thumb break or Thumbsnap holster, why the need to come up with a cutesy name? Here is an ad from a November 1966 Gun World.
I guess he had to call it something, to differentiate it from the common safety strap
. Remember they were quite new then, though we take thumb snaps for granted now.They work really well on revolvers, with their lowset hammers. Really, they're awkward when adapted to autos, sometimes even dangerous. There are times when I think they've been disappearing from modern holsters, not because of users eschewing them, but because the modern crop of makers can't make them effective! Thumb snaps add a lot of difficulty to the engineering and then the production of auto holsters.
Much of what a thumb snap does is to protect the spur on a revolver, from being cocked by the elbow. And to keep the spur from wearing elbows of long shirt sleeves (ah, remember when?). Doing all that, and adding retention, obsoleted the hammer guard as on this Safariland. Then autos started the shift away from thumb snaps and didn't need hammer guards at all.
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Here's my second version, non-tilting belt loop Safariland number 1 FBI with suede lining. The hammer guard is metal lined. The slight line at the top of the cylinder is where the metal ends.
Is the rivet on the Phil's holster perhaps to tighten an N frame holster to K frame size?
Here's my second version, non-tilting belt loop Safariland number 1 FBI with suede lining. The hammer guard is metal lined. The slight line at the top of the cylinder is where the metal ends.
Is the rivet on the Phil's holster perhaps to tighten an N frame holster to K frame size?
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I'll bet it is! Looking at how the gun sits, the trigger guard should be over the welt, not inside of it. I thought something looked wrong there...good catch!
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SG-688 You are very perceptive. N frame would not go in it, but K frame
was loosy goosy. I have used a screw and thick hard rubber washer like
this on 2 or 3 holsters and it seems to work well.
was loosy goosy. I have used a screw and thick hard rubber washer like
this on 2 or 3 holsters and it seems to work well.
Ross3914
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Is the holster for a Colt? The Python and Trooper were a tad bigger than a K-frame, but smaller than an N.
