Scan your DL to buy Ammo At Wal Mart

[Telecaster]

When I do business with the local building department, the payment process is grotesquely cumbersome. A cashier runs your driver license through some kind of scanner. Why, I have never asked, and the caliber of employee suggests they won't know the answer.

DLs with a gold star ("Real ID") contain machine-readable biometric data that can be shared nationally and internationally.

 

[Muss Muggins]

DLs with a gold star ("Real ID") contain machine-readable biometric data that can be shared nationally and internationally.

No, they don't . . .

 

[vt_shooter]

The scan is the best check for fake ID's. Not justifying it, just explaining it . . .

If they were scanning just to check for fake ID's there would be no reason to archive the data that's scanned, but I'd bet you a box of 50 gold-dots that they'll archive the data that's scanned. That would mean one more database to hold information about you, data that you'll have no clue how its used or by whom.

 

[DWalt]

Back in the days when I wrote checks instead of using credit cards, some stores would ask that I write my SSN on the check. I always complied without question. I made one up.

 

[Muss Muggins]

If they were scanning just to check for fake ID's there would be no reason to archive the data that's scanned, but I'd bet you a box of 50 gold-dots that they'll archive the data that's scanned. That would mean one more database to hold information about you, data that you'll have no clue how its used or by whom.

I stopped worrying about who has what data on me a long, long time ago. Actually, I've never really worried about it. If you don't like it, don't shop there . . .

 

[desi2358]

After the last gun shop I worked for went belly up I took a job at the local walmart. Working the sports counter I would have to say that walmarts training programs are a joke and it is no surprise to see the litany of complaints about people who don't know anything about what they are selling.

That is part of the problem that they try to address by requiring ID for all kinds of purchases and they program it into the computer registers. They are a large, lawyer heavy corporation and deathly afraid of violating Federal, State or Local laws when selling anything that might be age restricted. Too much afraid of lawsuits and bad media but they don't want to miss out on any potential money stream either.

The current program for ammo sales requires entering the customers birth date, now it's pretty obvious that some people are more than old enough to buy any ammo they want but the computer won't let the sale proceed without a date so one must be entered. As to scanning an ID, never heard any such thing but some areas might be considering it (or someone was passing on corporate rumor, I've heard some pretty stupid things myself from employees). Walmart in this area sells basic shooting ammo in popular calibers and they are cheap. Hard to compete with in a society where price is seemingly the most important thing. A shop I was with years ago had the misfortune to have a Walmart @ a mile away and to compete for basic target ammo sales we carried a lot of off brands, sold bulk and surplus ammo to get a share of that market which is a vital, daily income stream (gun profit margins are small, ammo accessories and services are what keeps small shops open) and without enough of that the "out of business" signs go up.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

Back in the days when I wrote checks instead of using credit cards, some stores would ask that I write my SSN on the check. I always complied without question. I made one up.

My checks today have my name on them and underneath "offshore account"
If they want more information, I let them write anything they want to on the check. DL number-no problem. Phone number-I give them he jail phone number or tell them I don't have a phone. Social Security number-they get a foxtrot yankee. These poor slugs are just doing what they are ordered to do in order to keep their jobs. Try not to make their lives any more miserable-be polite but firm. Except DMV-Screw DMV

 

[nachogrande]

THEY ARE RETAILERS, NOT POLICE.

The scan is the best check for fake ID's. Not justifying it, just explaining it . . .

It's not their job to root out fake ID's. Look at it sure, scan it, no thanks. Pretty much any card with a magnetic strip contains way more info than is actually needed, or should be there. Who knows how it may be used or hacked. JMO

 

[oneounceload]

This way we can buy guns and ammo when we're out of state.

You can now...........a national CCW takes control away from the States and gives it to the Feds.......you REALLY want that to happen when a Socialist gets elected? And just whose rules and regs will rule the day - FL, GA, TX, AZ? Or (more likely), NY, NJ, DC, MA

Don't go down that slippery slope, there's no return if you do. We need the Feds to be OUT of our business, not getting more involved in it.

 

[nachogrande]

I MAY NOT LIKE IT...

But these so called "slugs" probly weren't at the board meeting nor involved in the corporate decision making process. Just following their job descriptions. I'm sure many of them don't care for the extra time it takes & grief they have to listen to.

 

[Arik]

Walmart in this area sells basic shooting ammo in popular calibers and they are cheap. Hard to compete with in a society where price is seemingly the most important thing. .

How cheap can they be that you can't buy local or online? I've been to WM that do carry ammo and aside from the limited selection they're prices aren't that low that local gun stores are worried.

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[Arik]

It's not their job to root out fake ID's. Look at it sure, scan it, no thanks. Pretty much any card with a magnetic strip contains way more info than is actually needed, or should be there. Who knows how it may be used or hacked. JMO

So why are you even online? This website does show where you're located.... Not hard to hack if someone wants to

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[Muss Muggins]

It's not their job to root out fake ID's. Look at it sure, scan it, no thanks. Pretty much any card with a magnetic strip contains way more info than is actually needed, or should be there. Who knows how it may be used or hacked. JMO

It's their job to make sure they don't sell something to someone not old enough to buy it . . .

 

[Telecaster]

"I know my birth date says I'm 16, but I identify as a 24 year old..."

 

[nachogrande]

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO

So why are you even online? This website does show where you're located.... Not hard to hack if someone wants to
Pretty sure the site does it's best to protect personal info.
Locate my "general" area perhaps. Finding my EXACT street address, among 1,000's of others, doubtfull. If someone has the skills & strong enough desire, have at it. I won't let you in the pool, but would be happy to turn the hose on you.

 

[Arik]

So why are you even online? This website does show where you're located.... Not hard to hack if someone wants to

Locate my "general" area perhaps. Finding my EXACT street address, among 1,000's of others, doubtfull. If someone has the skills & strong enough desire have at it. I won't let you in the pool, but would be happy to turn the hose on you.

Your IP address is partially your computer and partially your router. And those who do it don't need to come over and play in the pool. They have everything they need from your info. Don't even have to be on the same continent.

So here you say ". If someone has the skills & strong enough desire have at it" but it's a problem when it's a DL????

I can't post it here due to language but there is a YouTube video a guy made where he was playing online video games and hacking the other people playing with him. Full name and address in seconds

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[25elk]

ammo @Walmart

They did scan my DL at our local Walmart here in NE GA about 2 months ago when I bought some .22 cartridges. Told me it was a new company policy.

 

[Bill Bates]

I suspect there is nothing nefarious about Walmart toying with scanning drivers licenses of ammo purchasers. Of course like all dealers of firearms and ammo they are concerned with violating the law, even if it is unintentional. They want to be able to keep selling ammo and don't want to risk that business because an employee screwed up.

Scanning isn't about the buyer; it is about the employee. If a drivers license scan is required for the purchase to be completed they don't have worry about the employee screwing up unintentionally or worse intentionally. Taking the process of checking the birthday and residency out of the power of that low wage employee is just a way to more control the process.

I see some of the local grocers and our state liquor stores doing the same thing when selling alcohol. Removing the process from the employees discretion and judgement is about the business keeping their license to do business.

 

[Arik]

I suspect there is nothing nefarious about Walmart toying with scanning drivers licenses of ammo purchasers. Of course like all dealers of firearms and ammo they are concerned with violating the law, even if it is unintentional. They want to be able to keep selling ammo and don't want to risk that business because an employee screwed up.

Scanning isn't about the buyer; it is about the employee. If a drivers license scan is required for the purchase to be completed they don't have worry about the employee screwing up unintentionally or worse intentionally. Taking the process of checking the birthday and residency out of the power of that low wage employee is just a way to more control the process.

I see some of the local grocers and our state liquor stores doing the same thing when selling alcohol. Removing the process from the employees discretion and judgement is about the business keeping their license to do business.

Please stop it with all the logic!

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[NYlakesider]

Wal Mart clerk asked me once if the ammo was for a long gun or hand gun. I told her neither; I'm just a collector.

She shrugged and processed the sale.

Wally does that and so does Dicks. At least the people at Dicks seen to have a better grasp of the situation. Many people at WM state that if it fits pistol you MUST have a permit.

Since the advent of the Safe Act I would not doubt that checking a license and recording that info will be mandatory soon.

I buy very little ammo though WM and only got to Dicks when they have a super good price. The many signs in the gun area at Dicks tell you that you must have a pistol permit to buy pistol ammo, but most clerks will simply ask you is this for a rifle or pistol and accept your answer.

At WM a couple years ago the clerk there was insisting about 9MM not being a rifle round and demanded to see a permit.

The price was very good so I acquiesced and showed him my Utah permit. (I live in NY) He then asked you got one closer so I pulled my Florida permit. I then told him your rules only call for having a PP. No more problem from him!