Well, I took my SD .40 out Saturday with two friends and my son. I was using the gun's most accurate load I have found to date, the Winchester 165 grain white box ammunition. It was at about 0900, a nice (for Arizona) 82 degrees according to my friend's Truck outside tempeture gauge, and almost no breeze whatsoever. At 25 yards, I sat down on a folding chair, crossed my leg over the other forming a rest. I fired five slow fire rounds at a four inch orange sticky dot on my target, and got three cloverleaf hits in the middle of the orange dot, then two hits just touching the outer edge of the left side of the dot for a (center to center) two inch group! Now THAT is the best group I have ever gotten from any gun I have ever owned, and I am a die hard Glock fan (still am). I was so impressed, I went and ordered the SD9 to see if I got a "all the parts just came togeather right" gun, or if the whole line is as good. I'll get it (probably) next week, will go out the following weekend with the SD9 and report back on it Monday the 30th. I had to sell a Glock 19 to get the SD9 so I hope the .40 wasn't just a chance gun that I got lucky with, we'll see. I did fire the rest of the 50 round box of ammunition that day and the gun kept performing (not me, but the gun did) getting three to four inch groups depending on who was shooting it, but all in all is is becoming my "go to gun" instead of my Glock 23. I still like the Glock, just love the accuracy I'm getting with the SD.