Semiauto with revolver trigger?

[Telecaster]

The things I think of when laying in bed before my alarm goes off...

Most of us love our revolvers because they have a safe long heavy(ish) double action trigger, which you can thumb back as desired to have a short crisp light single action shot.

Yeah, they made lots of DA/SA semiautos, but that ain't the same thing, not even close.

Was there ever any attempt to build a semiauto with a trigger that gives you the exact same options as a DA revolver? If not, why the heck not?

 

[03hemi]

Yes, the Colt Double Eagle, it's rare and it's a dog. Nobody bought them because the trigger is like that of a revolver?
Why wouldn't you want a "glass snapping" trigger like the 45 auto gives was the ultimate question?

 

[Telecaster]

Why wouldn't I want a K-frame trigger on a semi-auto? No safety needed.

 

[Hair Trigger]

The things I think of when laying in bed before my alarm goes off...

Most of us love our revolvers because they have a safe long heavy(ish) double action trigger, which you can thumb back as desired to have a short crisp light single action shot.

Yeah, they made lots of DA/SA semiautos, but that ain't the same thing, not even close.

Was there ever any attempt to build a semiauto with a trigger that gives you the exact same options as a DA revolver? If not, why the heck not?

You answered your own question. The DA/SA semiauto does the same thing a revolver does, at least on the first shot. DAO semiauto's, so far as I know, don't have a single action sear on the hammer, so can't be used SA, and have a long pull on each and every shot. I'm not a fan of either one. I want the same pull on every shot, so a striker-fired or SAO that you can cock and lock are my only choices. Actually, my only choice is SAO because that's all I own.

 

[03hemi]

Handle one and you'll understand why they sucked and didn't sell especially if you're an auto kinda guy.

 

[NY-1]

I've heard that the Kahr K9 has a very agreeable DAO trigger feel if you're used to a revolver trigger. I've always wanted to try one out. (I love the clean lines of these things, unbesmirched by unsightly rails or front slide serrations.)

 

[Rammer Jammer]

Not a lot of DAO semi autos made but what comes to mind is a few of the Ruger P series. Most are DA/SA but a few were made DAO. Good guns but not exactly refined.

 

[BigMuddy]

My S&W 4546 DAO Semi Auto has a better “long” trigger pull than any revolver I’ve ever owned.

I guess I don’t understand the OP’s question. As stated the DA/SA semi autos would be what he’s asking for.

Dan

 

[David Sinko]

For years I suffered with a DAO Sig 229 as a duty gun. That had to be the second worst trigger pull on a semiautomatic pistol (the top spot going to the HK VP70Z). The hammer on the Sig would follow the slide forward and was then actuated by the trigger, providing a very long and heavy trigger pull. It could not be thumb cocked. If you aren't a police administrator, why would you want such a thing? They are extremely difficult to shoot well and can not be compared to a good DA revolver trigger.

 

[gmarshall99]

Cz75 series of semi autos does.

 

[reddog81]

When you say they are not the same thing and not even close what do you mean? What’s wrong with DA / SA semi autos?

I have a CZ 75 and it has a long DA pull and nice crisp SA pull like you average revolver. The DA pull is lighter than your average revolver but comparable to a tuned gun. I could make the trigger worse if I wanted to but that seems crazy to me.

 

[Telecaster]

I guess I don’t understand the OP’s question.

Yup, no one else did either.

S&W Model 66:

Six trigger pulls, all the same pull, long smooth double action heavy enough not to need a safety to be safe. Too slow to fire? Not for Jerry Miculek.

Six trigger pulls, thumb back the hammer, take your time, make one ragged hole with a short, light, crisp single action.

Or mix and match at your discretion.

Now, do that with 15 or more rounds of 9mm, or 10 rounds of .45ACP.

This is NOT what a DA/SA semiauto offers.

 

[mikerjf]

I think the OP wants a DAO auto with the option to cock it for SA, * only when desired *.

 

[LVSteve]

I don't think one was ever made. If you think about how a semi operates, the hammer and sear cannot tell the difference between the slide pushing back the hammer, and your thumb pulling back the hammer.

The nearest I can think of are these true DAO (no pre-cocking) guns. Sig P250 series, SCCY CPX1, 2&3, Kel Tec P11, CZ100, Browning BDM set to DAO.

 

[SmithNut]

Yup, no one else did either.

S&W Model 66:

Six trigger pulls, all the same pull, long smooth double action heavy enough not to need a safety to be safe. Too slow to fire? Not for Jerry Miculek.

Six trigger pulls, thumb back the hammer, take your time, make one ragged hole with a short, light, crisp single action.

Or mix and match at your discretion.

Now, do that with 15 or more rounds of 9mm, or 10 rounds of .45ACP.

This is NOT what a DA/SA semiauto offers.

You need a DAO S&W Third Gen auto. There are many versions.
What you don't need is one that you can cock and shoot single action, IMO. There is no good reason to shoot SA for defense.

I know, I know, the 1911 folks are going to show up denouncing my opinion, but I'll stay put on this, when in a defensive situation a 5-9 pound trigger pull feels like 4 ounces..... don't want one.

Cheers....

 

[Kevin J.]

I was raised and and eventually trained on revolvers (model 15 was my duty carry) I have owned the Kahr CM9 and it had IMO the closest trigger to a double action revolver.

 

[Well Armed]

What would be the point OP? Seems like a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

 

[Well Armed]

Yup, no one S&W Model 66:

Six trigger pulls, all the same pull, long smooth double action heavy enough not to need a safety to be safe. Too slow to fire? Not for Jerry Miculek.

Hit the decoker 6 times if you want 6 DAO pulls with a DA/SA semiauto. A DA/SA semiauto has a DAO first trigger pull, thus it does NOT need a safety to carry or after the initial shot.

Yup, no one S&W Model 66:

Six trigger pulls, thumb back the hammer, take your time, make one ragged hole with a short, light, crisp single action.

Either fire the first DAO round OR cock the hammer back like you would a revolver to be in SAO mode....

This is NOT what a DA/SA semiauto offers.

DA/SA offers something that makes much, much, much more sense and logic vs what you're asking for. If you want this feature because you do want to have to use a thumb safety, a DA/SA pistols is in the same condition when carried and for the first shot as a revolver is in.

 

[hkcavalier]

I can't think of many people who would willingly choose a DAO. It's made functionally worse on purpose for 'safety' (lawyers and liability) reasons, much like the Glock "NY" heavy disconnector.

EDIT: in a full size gun. I have pocket autos that are DAO just because there's not enough space for a decocker. And they all suck to actually shoot!

A DA/SA serves a mechanical purpose --- you cock the hammer with the first pull, but then get the benefit of a nice SA pull for the follow up shots as the slide cocks the hammer for you. You're asking to take away some of this engineering elegance for...why exactly? I shot lots of M9 as a military competitive shooter back in the day, and we never saw any discernable difference in scores during rapid fire starting with the hammer cocked vs. forward...to me the "it's better because every trigger pull is the same" is a total myth in the same camp as "9mm will shoot your lungs out!"

 

[shawn mccarver]

You might look at the Browning Dual Mode (BDM), long out of production, and the 15-shot factory magazines are expensive due to rarity. This was Browning's submission to the FBI for its pistol trials. Obviously, they were offering a pistol that had features of both a DA/SA with decocker, and DAO (revolver mode). It is very thin, and works very well. My recollection is that it was perhaps a little fragile as it may have had issues in the longevity part of the test. Don't hold me to that, but the pistol did not win the trials.