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bushmaster1313
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Officer Down--Sergeant Ron Helus--Killed responding to Borderline Bar Shooting
29 year veteran
Killed doing his duty
Leaves a wife and son
Sergeant Ron Helus
RIP
Sergeant Ron Helus , Ventura County Sheriff's Office, California
29 year veteran
Killed doing his duty
Leaves a wife and son
Sergeant Ron Helus
RIP
Sergeant Ron Helus , Ventura County Sheriff's Office, California
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Thx for posting this. Was about to search for this info.
Another great loss and another one just short of retirement.
Prayers sent for the family of this hero.
Pecked out on my iPhone.
Another great loss and another one just short of retirement.
Prayers sent for the family of this hero.
Pecked out on my iPhone.
Shooting at LA, CA bar
California bar shooting leaves 12 dead, including sheriff'''s sergeant, police say | Fox News
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Early reports are 12 dead after an individual dressed in black, threw smoke grenades and began shooting in a bar frequenced by college students.
When will our lawmakers and the media realize that gun laws alone don’t work.
Mod, apparently we have two threads on this topic. Please combine. Thanks.
California bar shooting leaves 12 dead, including sheriff'''s sergeant, police say | Fox News
Hope the link works.
Early reports are 12 dead after an individual dressed in black, threw smoke grenades and began shooting in a bar frequenced by college students.
When will our lawmakers and the media realize that gun laws alone don’t work.
Mod, apparently we have two threads on this topic. Please combine. Thanks.
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BearBio
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A 19 yr old in a California bar?
Duplicate threads merged.
Ozark Marine
US Veteran
Along with a man bringing a gun into a bar?
It's a Gun Free Zone according to California laws.
Both of these things must be stopped with more comprehensive common sense gun and drinking laws.
California must lead the way now.
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DWalt
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TV news says weapon was a .45 Glock 21 with extended magazine, legally purchased.
I am absolutely enraged and humbled by these events. Enraged by the whac-knot coward mowing folks down while defenseless (they follow rules/ laws). Humbled by the LEO bravery, recognizing it was "his turn" and performing magnificently. Joe
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So is mass murder. Doesn't seem to change the outcome much. Joe
Yes my point exactly. Laws won't stop evil.
As a3rd generation Callie I believe the drug problem has to addressed before the random killing will be solved. Drugs are rampant here & our political leaders are not doing a thing to stop them. Giving needles & housing is not the answer. Enough said.
HOUSTON RICK
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Very sad that shooting other people seems like a choice to some folks. I wish that I knew the answer to why that is so, and how to stop it. My prayers for the victims and their families. It seems that if you are going to have a large gathering in your establishment, you need armed security, or patrons, in place rather than police to respond after the fact.
Like many states, licenses to carry in California are not valid in bars. May God protect us all.
Like many states, licenses to carry in California are not valid in bars. May God protect us all.
15 of my 50 years working for a paycheck have been spent "holding keys" in various psych facilities. Most folks would rather die or worse than be "put away." Fact is if you seek real help permanent disabilities are attached. Most folks experience ups-and-downs in a lifetime and would benefit from a "time out." Except as a society we don't allow that. It's "all or nothing" in just about every area of current American society. Until that changes and we "increase the love" and cut down on "punishment", expect more madness. Joe
LVSteve
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This x1000. After all the family heartaches and deaths I went through in a four year period up to 2011, I threw myself into my work for a year basically to catch up. At the end of that period contract shenanigans resulted in me getting an unexpected sabbatical. It was the best thing that could have happened to me.
Sadly, the "all or nothing " approach most live by prevents them from stepping away because they cannot afford it. I was lucky in that I could, although much of that security came from burying family.
I just watched a news report where they said there were a lot of off duty officers in the club, all unarmed, it said.
Why would off duty LEOs be unarmed?
It’s at about 3:50 in the video.
Chilling video shows inside of California bar as shooter opened fire [Video]
LVSteve
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Many departments in many jurisdictions have rules that ban taking your off duty gun into alcohol licensed premises.
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Typical Yahoo hyperbole. Confusing rather chilling best describes the video.
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