SIG P210 Legend

[The Highlander]

Yeah, I know it is the S&W Forum, but anyone that respects fine firearms will not mind!

Does anyone have one of the new P210's on order? What do you think of the pistols? What have you been told to expect on delivery dates, and all that stuff.

I've wanted a 210 for decades, never had the convergence of funds and an available pistol before and I'm considering getting one while I can.

Thanks!

The Highlander

 

[ridewv]

Good question. I have a few regular P210's and was thinking of adding a Legend to round out the collection, once the pent up demand is satisfied. From what's been posted these German P210's are just about the same as the Swiss originals, with a couple added improvements to boot.

 

[jaketurtle]

I was thinking of getting a p210 for years… p210-5 to be exact.. However, after much thought I figure to stick with what I know. I was at Roco’s site last night and saw the P210 legend. I didn’t know they made one.. You still have to realize that this is a newly created copy of the classic.. So as far as collectables…. I don’t know. What is your view on the new Smiths Classics… My view is I’d rather just pay a few more hundred dollars and buy the ones that were made in the 40’s and 50’s NIB in many cases.. That way those will always be collectable… Finding a good P210 in not really an issue if you have time… However, price might be..

My personal view about the sig p210.. A good gun but not worth the extra money. I don’t think the P210 can out shoot my 952 or Les Baer P2 in 9mm…and personally I don’t like the looks of it compared to those guns. It got its reputation when it was the best and most accurate 9mm of its day… But now, I don’t’ think it is any better then what I have. I know it has an interesting slide action, but if that was so much more accurate, then why isn’t any manufactures producing guns that way? Just something to think about.. But then again I’m not a Sig collector perhaps you are. Just giving you my point of view..

 

[ridewv]

I know it has an interesting slide action, but if that was so much more accurate, then why isn’t any manufactures producing guns that way? ..

Are you referring to the slide running inside the frame, rather than outside? CZ and Sphinx both do this also. IMO the P210 is an excellent design, produced from precise manufactured parts, made from the best steel.
The P210 is very accurate but also has the reputation for longevity. I recall reading they are expected to handle 100,000 rounds of pretty hot ammo before the barrel needs attention. And this is not a hand-fitted pistol, it's mass produced. (To extremely tight tolerances) You can interchange parts from one pistol to another and they'll operate the same. This is what differentiates it from say a hand fitted 1911.

 

[jaketurtle]

Yes I was.. I didn’t know that about CZ or Sphinx .. I’m not that familiar with those guns.. However, I could be wrong, but the guns we are talking about kind of specializes in high quality special forces guns and are European. It. must be more common in Europe, never caught on here.

As for the quality, there is no question its high quality. If it wasn’t I wouldn’t be interested in it. Do I wish I owned a P210-5 yes.. but I can’t collect everything.. I just don’t have the money and need to focus it on what I do collect.. As for the p210 legend (for me) I don’t need another shooter 9mm. As for the collector in me, If I would purchase a P210 it would be that P210-5 collector grade and never shoot it.

To each his own.

 

[rburg]

I'm always amused when someone decides they're going to resume production of a proven masterpiece, then also announce "with improvements". Yeah, right. S&W did that with....MIM and an infernal lock...and 3 piece barrel...and plastic grips....the list goes on and on.

Improvements usually are code words from the marketing dept after consultation with the bean counters. About how some item an be made cheaper and worse, but still claim the prior quality.

So here's the deal. I've got 2 P210s now. They were made in the late 60s and early 70s. Yes, in Neuhausen, Switzerland, not in Germany. But I'm an open minded kind of guy...I'll give them 15 or 20 years of production, and if they're still making them I'll use the time to evaluate their "improvements" to see if its the real thing or not. Until then, I'll just watch the products from SIG-Sour and see how they measure up. Between now and then, If I see an older production gun that catches my eye, I'll buy it. Everything new isn't better.

 

[ridewv]

But I'm an open minded kind of guy...I'll give them 15 or 20 years of production, and if they're still making them I'll use the time to evaluate their "improvements" to see if its the real thing or not..

I'm kinda old, not sure I can give them 20 years! The American mag release (as the 210-5 had), extended beavertail, and (arguably) the firing pin block, if not improvements, are enhancements.

Jake, you may be correct in their not worth what they're going for. Still the P210 is a really high quality piece, the "original Sig", and no longer made by that company. The Legend is made in Germany (by Sauer I think). The Swiss and German P210 aficionados that I've heard from have all said the Legend looks, feels, and shoots just like the original. Coming from them that's high praise. Maybe in a few years after some accumulate 50,000+ rounds ($12,000 worth of ammo!) we'll have a better idea if the Legend is living up to the original?

 

[The Highlander]

Ride got it right. The slide differences are a part of the accuracy of the gun, and other manufacturers such as CZ use a similar design. The CZ 75 is probably the only gun that can surpass the 1911 in numbers and copies being produced. But yes Jake, because of the politics of the day, the CZ's are much better known outside the US than they are here.

While the P210 has never suffered from an import ban because it was produced in a non-friendly country, they have never been heavily imported because of the price tag, and the fact that savvy European's snagged them up quickly. They are indeed miracles of mass production, a mass produced, parts interchangeable handgun with the accuracy of a bullseye pistol, and the reliability and long life of Glocks and SIG's.

Actually, I'm not a collector, more of an accumulator. Not interested in the collector appreciation in value, its nice to know a gun might go up in value, but not necessary for me. I don't own any safe queens.

I'm interested in the P210 Legend because for about 25 years, since I read about them essentially being "The Best There Is" I have wanted one. The two things I didn't like are the European heel-style mag release, which has now been corrected, and to a much lesser extent, the hammer-bite. The new beavertail should fix that potentially painful issue.

I'd certainly buy an older P210 for the right price. However, I haven't seen a P210 at a gun show or in a shop in at least 20 years. Obviously they are out there, but I will not buy over the internet, and the guns are virtually unknown in my area. So, a new gun, with an American mag release, from my local gun pusher is just fine with me.

I'll probably put in my order and deposit later today.

 

[kreativecid]

My bday is soon, and a new P210 Legend is on my list for the last pistol I buy. The last of the bucket list. But I'm on the fence. My bucket list's last 1911 shows up next week (another thread), and I think I'm content as far as handguns are concerned. Now if we're talkin' o/u that's another story.

 

[The Highlander]

Yep, the 210 is on my Grail Gun List and has been for a couple of decades now.

I just keep thinking to myself that the $2000 for a 210 is four Glocks. Or maybe a Glock 34, a Kimber SOLO, and an M1 Garand.

I don't know. For the first time ever, with one available to purchase, I have the money. So, I'll have buyers remorse if I get it, and buyers regret if I don't!

 

[Peter M. Eick]

I have a -6 and -5 that I shoot so I am not in the market for a heavy american style mag release. I like my 210's just the way they are.

The nice thing I see is parts. Just think. You could order a spring set or even a new sight (if i wanted to convert my -6) without going to europe.

I see advantages, but I am not in the market for one.

 

[Out West]

I'm always amused when someone decides they're going to resume production of a proven masterpiece, then also announce "with improvements". Yeah, right. S&W did that with....MIM and an infernal lock...and 3 piece barrel...and plastic grips....the list goes on and on.

Improvements usually are code words from the marketing dept after consultation with the bean counters. About how some item an be made cheaper and worse, but still claim the prior quality.

So here's the deal. I've got 2 P210s now. They were made in the late 60s and early 70s. Yes, in Neuhausen, Switzerland, not in Germany. But I'm an open minded kind of guy...I'll give them 15 or 20 years of production, and if they're still making them I'll use the time to evaluate their "improvements" to see if its the real thing or not. Until then, I'll just watch the products from SIG-Sour and see how they measure up. Between now and then, If I see an older production gun that catches my eye, I'll buy it. Everything new isn't better.

It's going to have a light rail!

Out
West