Sig P229 Legion not as impressive as I thought

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Folks, if you fast forward to 7:37 you will see this guys groups at 15ft to 21ft was not very impressive for a gun that is capable of shooting much better groups. Bad shot or not, most striker fired pistols even the worse ones can do 1.5" groups at 21ft without trying too hard.

I don't think I am going to spend this much money on a gun that can't outshoot my MP 2.0 Compact with 4" barrel


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I too used to think the "all metal" SIGs with the external hammer would make superb fighting handguns. Then I screwed up and bought two them. Never again! If I want a semiauto fighting pistol, it will be a Glock or an M&P of some sort.
 
I too used to think the "all metal" SIGs with the external hammer would make superb fighting handguns. Then I screwed up and bought two them. Never again! If I want a semiauto fighting pistol, it will be a Glock or an M&P of some sort.

Can you elaborate on why?

Mine 220s and 245s date back to the late 80s (W Ger) and early 90s all are great guns. My W.Ger 220 will shoot cloverleafs at 50 ft...... not so much me anymore!!!!!
 
I too used to think the "all metal" SIGs with the external hammer would make superb fighting handguns. Then I screwed up and bought two them. Never again! If I want a semiauto fighting pistol, it will be a Glock or an M&P of some sort.

I once owned a Glock, and I have nothing negative to say about them. My only problem with them is that I'm no fan of plastic guns. I do however own several external hammer Sigs and for me they are terrific guns. The P220 is my favorite. I'd be curious to know what you don't like about them. Shoot what you like and like what you shoot.
 

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I do however own several external hammer Sigs and for me they are terrific guns. The P220 is my favorite.

wow..long slide 220 match elite. Got to love it. That would be my favorite too.

I run the 17 lbs Wolff hammer spring in all of mine, 9mm, 10 and 45 with the SRT (short reset triggers). They are all high beaver tail as Elite and Legions have it with Hogue G10s. I have yet to find a DA/SA competition gun that is equal in trigger pull and comfort for me. They are all high beaver tail as Elite and Legions have it with Hogue G10s. Just awesome.
 
I once owned a Glock, and I have nothing negative to say about them. My only problem with them is that I'm no fan of plastic guns. I do however own several external hammer Sigs and for me they are terrific guns. The P220 is my favorite. I'd be curious to know what you don't like about them. Shoot what you like and like what you shoot.

I have a Sig Sauer P220 caliber .45 ACP equal to yours, for the serial number it must be 1993, I can only say that it is excellent, it has been with me for more than 20 years and I never had problems.
 
...Shoot what you like and like what you shoot.

Good advice. Between modern semi-auto handguns from any of the major, reputable makers, there isn’t a lot of difference at the bottom line (reliability and accuracy). The manual of arms may be different, but most of them will do approximately what the others do, and which one you feel most confident with is likely what’s most important. Metal SIGs are just as good as they’ve ever been, no matter what YouTube says. In spite of its rather high bore-axis, I particularly like the P226, but they’re all good guns.
 
I too used to think the "all metal" SIGs with the external hammer would make superb fighting handguns. Then I screwed up and bought two them. Never again! If I want a semiauto fighting pistol, it will be a Glock or an M&P of some sort.

REALLY? I wouldn't trade my old 228 & 229 for a crocker sack full of Glocks. You can't whittle away a 228 or 229 with a pocket knife like you can with a plastic glock.
 
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I too used to think the "all metal" SIGs with the external hammer would make superb fighting handguns. Then I screwed up and bought two them. Never again! If I want a semiauto fighting pistol, it will be a Glock or an M&P of some sort.

Oooh Bubba, you done stepped in it now. :eek:
Lots of lovers of the all metal, hammer fired Sigs here, including me. ;)
Personally, I have no use or desire for any striker fired piece of plastic. On this subject we'll just have to agree to disagree. No matter how wrong you are. :rolleyes:

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Definitely can’t blame the gun for the shooter’s weaknesses. I have a lot of choices if the SHTF; it’ll be my 229 going with me down range. It’s well built, 100% reliable and more accurate than I am.
 

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My personal opinion is that the Legion thing is essentially a marketing ploy, but my Sig P220 are far more accurate than am I.

I have a P220 in .45acp that I bought new in 1995 that has been back to Sig once in its lifetime for a refresh and it still shoots lights out.

I recently snagged a P220 in .38 super at an excellent price from a local estate and it shoots like a laser.

As the old saying goes, "It's the Indian, not the arrow."
 
REALLY? I wouldn't trade my old 228 & 229 for a crocker sack full of Glocks. You can't whittle away a 228 or 229 with a pocket knife like you can with a plastic glock.

Okay, first of all...crocker sack? Second, why the heck would anyone whittle away at a Glock with a pocket knife?
 
As much as I like my P232's and I can get consistent rapid fire goupings with them, I have to admit I shoot my CZ's better- particularly the Rami-which is a little smaller.

Can't say I like the aesthetics of the new Sigs either. Too "tacti-cool".
 
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I foolishly traded off the best shooting gun I've ever owned (maybe 25 years ago), which was a P228. I lost faith in the 9mm the day I shot a bunny rabbit with it (I'm talking Kentucky cottontail, not a Texas Jackrabbit), and the bullet entered the front of the rabbit and was found lodged in the hindquarter when I skinned it for the grill.

I sold all of my 9mm's and just got back into owning them a couple of years back. Haven't shot a bunny yet, nor have I replaced the 228 yet, but I need to, if only to see if it was just that one. However my 229 shoots almost as good, but I'm still getting used to that DAK trigger.

My only plastic striker guns are a Shield 45 and a PMR 30, both shoot very well, but I'm not able to do much good with any Glock I've tried.
 

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I had a new P229 for a few years. I wasn't impressed and I sold it. I would buy a new P226 however in a heartbeat because I've shot several and they're excellent accurate pistols.

I have since moved away from Sig. Last pistol purchased was an HK45. More money but it's a better pistol than any Sig I've owned, and I've owned a few. Still have one that will stay forever.
 
I go shooting with friends, after a few shots they look at me and ask me to shoot their gun because they can't put shots on target.

I usually fire the first round near or bullseye.

It 'aint the guns.
 
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