SIG Zulu 7 or Styrka S7 binoculars?

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I'm in the market for a nice set of binocs, but I'm not super educated when it comes to that. I'm currently looking at the

SIG ZULU 7

ZULU7 10x42 mm HDX

as well as the Styrka S7,

https://styrkastrong.com/binoculars/binoculars-s7-series/

both in 10x42. I've never heard of Styrka and I've never handled any SIG binocs.

Y'all have any input? Alternatives? What is a good can-do-it-all set of glasses?

Appreciate you guys' knowledge, as always :)
 
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I'm in the market for a nice set of binocs, but I'm not super educated when it comes to that. I'm currently looking at the

SIG ZULU 7

ZULU7 10x42 mm HDX

as well as the Styrka S7,

https://styrkastrong.com/binoculars/binoculars-s7-series/

both in 10x42. I've never heard of Styrka and I've never handled any SIG binocs.

Y'all have any input? Alternatives? What is a good can-do-it-all set of glasses?

Appreciate you guys' knowledge, as always :)


Nikon Monarch 7s are quite nice. A lot of bang for the buck.
Read the bino reviews on Birdforums, and the Audubon site
I have two pair of The Monarchs.
I can afford the high end, Swaro, Leitz, Zeiss, etc.
but I did not see the value for the extra $$$.

Vortex is a well reviewed brand also.
Should be able to get the Nikons for less than $500.
Best,
Gary
 
Hard to beat the Vortex family of roof prism binoculars. Very high quality optics and a lifetime warranty. I have the 10X42 Diamondback model, but there are many more options. The best prices I have found are at Amazon, where the Diamondback model is around $150 (lists for $249.00). One of the things I really like is the fact that despite being 10X42, they focus at a very close distance of 6-7 feet.

I'm sorry but I have no experience with the brands you mentioned.

Link to Vortex website:

Diamondback 10x42
 
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There is a good sub-forum covering Hunting Optics on the 24 Hour Campfire website. As you can imagine, lots of opinions there. I just ordered a set of Burris 8x42 Signature HD binoculars at the recommendation of gunwriter John Barsness, who posts under the name of Mule Deer. Best price for them is around $400 with free shipping. They also have a lifetime warranty. I believe they are Japan made rather than China. I'll see when they arrive.

A lot of the discussion there centers around what is the best all around power, and the consensus is that 10X glasses generally only work best if you have a tripod adapter for them or something to rest them on while viewing.

I have an inexpensive set of Bushnell 8x25 pocket sized binoculars. They are OK for something just to fit in a jacket pocket but are not very high quality. I have been wanting something better for a long time. I can't spend $2500 or more for really top end glass, but I didn't think $100 glasses would be much good either. The Burris binocs at $400 hopefully will offer an excellent value.
 
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My Cousin spent 2 years in Germany in the Army attached to the German army. They used Steiner 8X30 Military & Marine binoculars and he swore by them.

About 20 years ago, I was at a big local gun show and one table had a hundred or so used Steiner 8X30's that came from Israel. I found one I liked and bought it for just over $100. Back then Steiners were twice that.

I've never had bino's as clear and sturdy as these and would recommend them to anyone. I've replaced the eye caps and lens caps and that's all I've done to them in over 20 years!
 
30+ years ago I was looking to upgrade some of my optics. The budget was pretty limited (especially by todays standards!) But I narrowed it down to 2 equal powered equal priced Binocs. A low end Bushnell (Brand name) and a K-Mart brand (No name) Focal. When we think about it it all comes down to Good Glass and Lens coatings (to absorb light), with all else seeming equal Turn the objective lenses towards you and look at your reflection! The less it reflects the more light is absorbed!

I still have those K-Mart field glasses (10x50) and take them on vacation, they actually produce less eye strain than my 10x50 Steiner's! (The Steiner 10x50's were a gift/bonus about 10 years ago). A few well to do friends will look through them and comment on how crisp and clear they are and ask where they can buy them, I just say, the company is out of business!

At a pawn shop, I also picked up a set of used 8x40 (Japan made no brand name) from the late 60's they weigh twice what either of my 10x50's weigh, but the sure look good for $35!

Ivan
 
In my experience, those who laud Steiner have never used Zeiss, Leica, or Swarovski. But Steiners are good for the money. My son has one. Says it's not as good as his Zeiss 10X56, but a good utility glass. Many years ago, I tested a 7X50 Steiner against B&L 7X35's in both roof and Porro form.The smaller Bausch & Lomb's (actually made by Bushnell) were quite noticeably better, even under dark skies, in astronomy. The 8X42 B&L Elite are very fine glasses. Also made in 10X42, I believe.

I used to review binoculars for a magazine and was loaned many, and bought those I most wanted. I also was a guest of Zeiss USA at a retreat/symposium conducted by a physicist from the factory. This was in rural VA after a fine dinner in Richmond.

We spent several days studying binocular design and using most of the famous brands in both daytime and night, under very dark skies.

Zeiss didn't mind us using other brands,as they mostly just confirmed Zeiss quality as the best, save Leica which I think are neck and neck. Back in the 1970's and '80's, I felt Zeiss eclipsed Leica, but by the '90's, Leica had upgraded quality. And I prefer some design elements of my Leica 8X32/BA to the then-current Zeiss model. (Since changed.)

For a relatively economical really good buy, I like my Swift 8.5X44 Audubon roof prism model, sold for about $500 where I looked. I def. prefer it to Nikon and Pentax.

I haven't been able to study current models, but I think they're even better than those of a few years ago, which were already superb.
I suspect that the best new models exceed the capability of most human eyes.

If buying used, shine a strong flashlight through the objective lenses and look around inside. MANY will be clouded from being left in a hot car.
 
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As to size, I have models ranging from a 6X20B Zeiss monocular to a Docter 15X60, used mainly at night.

I guess if there's an all-round, it's 8X42, but you'll carry more weight than in a 8X30 or 8X32. Do you need the added twilight performance?

Sometimes, you want a .243 rifle, other times a .30-06. Same for binoculars.
 
Thank y'all for the replies, I do appreciate y'all.

Do you need the added twilight performance?

Sometimes, you want a .243 rifle, other times a .30-06. Same for binoculars.

I hear ya and I agree. Different tools for different tasks.

I do have a Bushnell 10x42 but I want something better, more clear and maybe a tad lighter. It's supposed to be a general outdoors/hunting glass. I don't want to go bigger than 10x42 but I strongly consider the SIG Zulu9 in 11x45 or something equivalent.

I just read a lot about those prisms and I don't know what's best. Most have coated lenses and some are nitrogen filled. But what's with them darn prisms?
 
Roof prisms are in the straight barreled ones, and can be of several forms. Most are silver coated, but I believe the Abbe-Koenig version doesn't require that . But multi coatings vary widely and some cheaper glasses still use just basic magnesium fluoride coating. The lenses look blue. Advanced multi coatings vary from green to brown-purple and admit more light. They can be slanted to deliver more color in certain phases. The man who designed a very expensive Japanese glass told me he intended for birders to be the principal buyers, so he showed reds especially vividly, as many birds have red plumage. But it worked very well with all colors, too. I think I saw a little more copper when looking at Mars and some stars.

At one time, Porro prisms delivered a slightly better image (sharper) than did roof prisms, but about 1990, Carl Zeiss Optik developed a phase coating that cured that issue. They made this epochal discovery available industry wide, and most top brands now have that feature.

I think you'd benefit by buying a book on optics. Buy the book before the instruments! Beware of off brands like you asked about. They may be okay, but are not famous for binoculars.
 
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Not going to discuss brands, just the technicals.
7x35, 7 is the power, 35 is the objective lens diameter in mms. 35 divided by 7 gives binoculars with a 5mm exit pupil diameter.
7x50, 50 divided by 7 gives a 7mm exit pupil diameter.
The human eye under low light conditions can open up to 7mm diameter.
7x35, 10x50, 8x40 are average typical. 7x50, 10x70, 8x56 are for low light, night, and astronomy. they take advantage of their ability to have a large exit pupil diameter to match the eyes' low light opening.
Daytime use you wouldn't see a difference as eye pupils are closed down to a couple mms anyway.
 
7x50, 50 divided by 7 gives a 7mm exit pupil diameter.
The human eye under low light conditions can open up to 7mm diameter.

That's pretty interesting, I didn't know that.

I got myself a Steiner Predator in 10x42. According to your calculation this would allow for a 4.2mm exit pupil diameter.

Predator 10x42 | Hunting Binoculars | Steiner Optics

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I'll see how it's like in low light conditions. Might have to get another one :D
 

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