Sights on M&P 9 Pro

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This falls squarely in the "never do a favor for a friend because if it goes wrong, it's always your fault" category. :(

Buddy has a 9 Pro just like mine. He didn't like the all-black rear sight. In my infinite wisdom, I purchased a regular 2-dot S&W standard sight and spent a couple of hours filing the dovetail on the same so I could fit it to the Pro. Got it installed and it shoots about 8" LOW at 20 yards. Sigh.

Anybody have any ideas? Obviously there's no elevation adjustment on these sights (WTH but that's another story, I guess) so what's a guy to do?

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
 
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Seems I've gotten myself in an impossible situation. I'm just going to have to put his original sight back (IF I can find it) and let him be on his own, I guess. I just really didn't want to have to give him that as an answer.

Assuming the post above is true, I don't know how to make a sight taller without building one from scratch and I ain't that interested in trying to solve his dismay for black sights. If he's that disgruntled, he can invest in some Triticons or something, assuming they are even available for the Pro.

Thanks guys! Not what I Wanted to hear but the answers, nonetheless.
 
The OP has it right. This is what happens when you do a favor for someone. . . .

Obviously, this is a good lesson for why people who are not AT LEAST a factory trained armorer should not attempt such work.

S&W does not offer different heights of sights to adjust elevation as does Glock. There is an after market company that does so, however.

That company requires the shooter/purchaser to shoot a group, then precisely measure the distance the group needs to move, then use a provided formula from the web site, and they will make and supply the sight.

Since everyone sees the sights differently, it is only a coincidence if two people shoot to the same place with the same sight adjustment. Thus, the pistol's owner will have to do the sighting graph.

Fortunately for the gun companies, almost no one can really shoot a group for sighting purposes these days, as opposed to how it was in the bullseye days.

The fact that the vast majority of people shoot "minute of paper plate at 3 yards" allows gun companies to get away with a sight made for a certain trajectory load and which is more or less centered. This is "close enough for government work," if you will pardon the expression.

Best advice is to restore the gun to its original condition, and let the owner deal with it from here on.

Second best advice is to restore the gun to its original condition, provide the owner the name of the web site, and let the owner deal with it from here on.

www.dawsonprecision.com Home Page

Once the owner gets to the site, have him look for the Perfect Impact Sights and the Perfect Impact Promise. The formula and detailed instructions are right there on the site.
 
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Obviously, this is a good lesson for why people who are not AT LEAST a factory trained armorer should not attempt such work.

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I'm sorry but I can't just let that go. Obviously you couldn't either.

I never did anything to jeopardize anybody's safety. I changed out a sight. I didn't file his trigger group. I didn't remove his safety of his mag-out safety mechanism.

A lot of us work on our guns all the time, often with money-saving and beneficial results. I would never do any mod that could potentially jeopardize the integrity or safety of the firearm.

With all due respect to the armorers on the board, working on a firearm ain't rocket science. I was raised in my daddy's garage and body shop and had grease under my fingernails until I got my drivers' license. :D I know my way around a shop.

I admit I posted an improbable scenario to fix given I didn't want to spend anymore money. I had pretty much figured that out by the time I posted it. I was just hoping against hope that somebody had run across the same situation and had some epiphany that led to an answer that I hadn't thought of. After all, that's why these forums are here, isn't it?

No harm, no foul, but to imply that someone ought to be an armorer in order to knock a set of sights off, file off a dovetail, and replace them with another set is just ridiculous. The fact that I didn't bother to measure how tall they were is on me. I'll take the dunce hat for that one.

What's even more ridiculous is that S&W, in cheapening the entire M&P pistol product line, didn't spend the extra $1 to provide elevation adjustments on rear sights, and that the after-market hasn't (seemingly) addressed it either.
 
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Wilson Flyer, I couldn't agree with you more. I realize it's a old post however I to am face with a similar circumstance. Looking for a adjustable rear sight for a s&w Pro
 
I have a brand new 5" Pro and installed a Dawson green, FO rear sight that is exactly the same height as a standard factory white dot rear sight. The gun bench rests right to POA at 25 yards with AE 147 grain FMJ.
 
I called Dawson and ordered a lower fiber optic front sight, I gave them the details sight radius how much low at 10 yards and the height from the top of slide to top of the existing sight. I went ahead and ordered it since that was the less expensive way to go. I am just surprised as long as the MP has been out that S&W doesn't offer more for options.
 
I called Dawson and ordered a lower fiber optic front sight, I gave them the details sight radius how much low at 10 yards and the height from the top of slide to top of the existing sight. I went ahead and ordered it since that was the less expensive way to go. I am just surprised as long as the MP has been out that S&W doesn't offer more for options.

I would rather have S&W concentrate on pistols and leave the sights to the aftermarket experts.
 
you think a big company like S&W would take care of the problem, I called their customer service and they told me to look at aftermarket, they even recommended Dawson.
 
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