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I need some advice, I'm sure some of you have had a similar problem. A new neighbor that moved in 2 yrs. ago never mows his lawn, has junk all over, stacked up against my fence( a 4 ft cyclone that I put up ) Refuses to talk about it with me or others. Have talked to the city, but they don't seem egar to get involved. I pressed the city enough last year when the 3 ft high grass dried up, about fire danger and they got him to semi chop it down. I hate to have to wait till it dries up again to get something done. Any suggestions are very welcome. I hate being a bitchy neighbor but I can only take so much
 
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If the city has the proper ordinances, and the resources to pursue such a thing, they could force him to do something. I know many cities have guidelines that go beyond "fire hazard," eye-sore ordinances and such. It seems you've tried that avenue, though. If there's a legitimate fire hazard, the local department can issue citations. If it is legit, you could contact them, and the inspector will check it out. Otherwise, the only option you have is to work something out with him. I'm afraid you don't have many recourses, besides those. If he's renting, you could try the landlord.

I used to mow a neighbor's lawn for my parent's behalf as a kid. The neighbors were druggies and got foreclosed upon or something; disappeared one way or another.
 
Put a wood fence between you and the neighbor. Out of sight, out of mind. Paint the boards on his side the worst possible color you can imagine. Perhaps an artist rendering of the mayors wife and all the names and phone numbers of your local city councilmen.
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This one opens so many possibilities. I have the worlds worst neighbors, and I've had a running string of them over the years. In all fairness, the guy 2 doors down is the best neighbor I've ever had.

There is no good answer, short of you going to jail. If the city won't do their job, make their lives miserable. We had such a problem with the guy next door, Elaine S., my building inspector, knew who it was every damned day calling in at 8:30. It got to that point gradually, and it progressed from me and some other neighbors calling monthly to weekly. Then I got mad and just kept insisting she do something.

Someone else apparently got the action going because they finally went after the criminal. He went away to prison in mid summer of 2005. We've been cutting the grass ever since, just so it doesn't look so bad. But this year will be different. They've got it up for sale, so they can cut the grass.

And I've resumed my underground campaign of constructive vandalism. The other day I discovered I still had about 5 or so pounds of fertilizer left over from the past. So I spread it around the For Sale sign out front. Tonight, after dark, I'll water my lawn, and the area around the sign. My logic is that if its going to look bad, it might as well look awful.

I pulled that stunt back in 2003-2005, too. My theory being that if the grass was going to be knee high, it might as well be waist high. The inspector may be willing to let moderately long grass go, but they can't ignore a hayfield. Actually, they can, but they look bad for not doing their job.

I wouldn't suggest anyone else do that kind of thing......
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But you should know its an option. Just a few handfuls of good fertilizer, thrown to the winds over your fence, at night, when no one is looking.
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Then a little water, again, at night, so it doesn't dry out...
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On to a comment about painting the other guys side of the fence....
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Long ago, in my grad school years, I had a very good friend. He and his artist wife bought a nice house. But it was an inner city home, built in the 1800s, prior to indoor plumbing. That was retrofitted. One day, doing some demo work to make his wife a studio loft, we were smashing a wall and found a treasure trove. We found a bunch of old stuff behind a the wall, and it even included a handful of old photos. In one you could clearly see the original outhouse. And that solved the mystery of the walkway out into the backyard. From 2 of the photos, we got a real good idea of the way that original was constructed.

So a few weeks later, we were off to the lumberyard for materials. Doug was a good woodworker, if slow (maybe its the secret.) But we constructed a work of art. It was great. All varnished, right down to the obligatory crescent in the door. The only part not workable was there was no hole in the seat. He didn't want some wise guy to use it.

And we placed it in its original position, probably within a couple of inches! Of course we had a party to show it off. Then the jerk neighbors next door complained. The city came out and told him to remove it. Outhouses weren't allowed. Worse, he had a detatched garage, and that made 2 structures not attached, a no-no. And of course we didn't have a building permit. So our outhouse went to a needy old man down in the country. And it was time for revenge.

His neighbors were loud and trashy. They lived in the back yard, weather permitting. Their complaint was they didn't like outhouses, and they sat outside all the time. So in comes Doug's wifey, Anna, to the rescue. One day on her own, in a fit of rage, she went to the paint store and bought supplies.

All by herself she scraped the loose paint off the garage, which sat about 2 feet inside the fence. Then she used primer and put on 2 coats. Then the artist in her came to light. She painted an oversize picture of the outhouse on the side of the garage. The door was open in the painting. And seated inside, on the throne, was an oversized naked black woman. All facing the neighbors patio, about 12 feet away!
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Wow was it offensive to them. Big deal. Stir up crap and some of it lands on you. Sure enough, the following day the same rigid building inspector was out for a visit. Yes, the offending outhouse was safe and sound, on an old guys farm. But there was no city ordinance regulating artistic paintings (and free speech.) The neighbor was told there was nothing he, or they could do about it. Vandalism would be prosecuted. And to make matters worse, there were codes against privacy fences in that area. They pretty much screwed themselves.
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Sometimes their morgtage holder will get involved if they know what it looks like, But with all the forclosed properties now, They may not give a darn,
I remember when I was a kid, Mortgage co told Ins co that we had trees that were withen 10 feet overhang of the sidewalk and when it rained the branches would come down to 5' off the walk, The letter stated that if we didnt cut the branches, Our Ins would be dropped.
We never knew who called the Mortgage co. or our Ins Co, But the trees were trimmed up real fast...
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If the grass is indeed so high as to be a fire hazard perhaps it will catch on fire. Of course it would be better were the wind blowing away from your property toward the source of the problem. ___t happens!
 
"good fences make good neighbors"

High privacy fences make bad neighbors even better neighbors.
 
This is why, if it can be afforded, purchase enough land so it is impossible to see the next house.
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Either that, or plant some of those fast growing "privacy" trees.

Also, I wonder if the "plant that ate the south" would survive in Oregon? Perhaps you need a few pods to feed the birds.

I don't know if your neighbor could live in this:
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Just keeping everything cut down to the ground keeps kudzu at bay.
 
Our (idiot) mayor in Tulsa has the "Mayor's Action Line." It is a phone number you can call, answered by the Mayor's office, for information or to complain about inaction in other city offices. Check to see if you have one of these. If you don't, make your own.
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Call the mayor's office and make your complaint. Document who you talk to, and when. Call them back two days later to see what action they have taken. Call them daily after that until you are such a nuisance that they make him cut his grass. If he won't cut it, many cities will cut it for him, then bill him on his water/sewer bill. If he doesn't pay, water gets cut off.

I have a friend who works in our Mayor's office. They HATE the action line, but it usually seems to get a response.
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Learn everything you can about local codes and ordinances. Attend city council meetings and speak up. It may also help to put a sign in your front yard that says "I Live Next to an Uncouth Filthy Pig" or something to that effect. It seems that many in our current society need to have their sense of shame kick-started.
 
The plant that "ate the south" is now going to eat Oregon. I believe Oregon is the only place west of Texas that has reported the stuff.

Probably some bark-eater brought some back from a trip down south so he could return the state to nature!
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Here is a map that shows where kudzu is in Oregon (the yellow).

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The mayors office phone seems to work in most cities (not Detroit ... so much). You become the squeaky wheel, they may just oil you.
 
I have 2 of the slobby types, one thinks I should have to listen to his kid (now in prison) play his friggen drums in the garage with the doors open and the other thinks that his damned dog barking with every other breath is okay.

Long story short, numerous calls to the police, temporary relief and then the same old crap all over again. Call cops again (numerous times) temp relief, same song again. I research the city ordanances and find that after the 3rd complaint it falls into the nuciense (sp) arena. I print the ordanance and call the cops and demand that they react to this area of the law. They didn't like it but did issue citations to both for the violations. Cost them 150.00 each. A month later we're at it again, call cops, show ordanance, another citation, this one (the second) for 300.00 and an explanation that the 3rd one carried jail time (30 days) AND a 500.00 fine. It's been as quiet as a church house mouse for about 2 years now. The way I look at it is that the cops weren't going to do anything unless forced into it, so force it I did!!!!!!! Research your city, county and state laws, you'll find something that can be used but you may have to force the issue.....
 
Research your city, county and state laws, you'll find something that can be used but you may have to force the issue.....
This is a great answer. Not as satisfying as treachery and vandalism. Not as easy either, but is the way to do it.
 
My stepfather had neighbors in NYC...One had lotsa kids & was rather messy, the other moaned & complained, and put up a privacy fence. The offending neighbor hung his kids toys, junk, & trash in trees with rope, just to be a jerk. So be careful not to start a war that can't be won.
 
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I would consult a lawyer and get some advice from him(or her).

Best advice if you can afford it.

It varies city by city, state by state, but "nuisance" ordinances ofter apply and are actionable in court. Often all it takes is a letter from your attorney about the offending issues to make the neighbor see the light. At least it worked in my particular case and all ended well.
 
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