Smith & Wesson 629 Deluxe and 629 performance center

[bunker buster]

Hello,

Anybody knows the difference between this two fine revolver as to their DA factory pull weight?

Plan to get one

 

[Magnum_PI]

Good question... I'll be following as well because these two are on my radar.

I imagine build quality is higher (or should be) on the PC.

Sorry I can't be of more help OP.

Perhaps if anyone can chime in on what they like or the differences might be of help as well.

 

[madmikeb]

I have a bunch of PC and non PC revolvers and I would be really surprised if there was any difference in the DA pull weight between the two.

 

[75Vette]

Like you said, the PC 'should' be better but not sure if that's the case now. I couldn't tell you which has the lighter da trigger pull but that can be easily remedied with a lighter mainspring if the gun you end up purchasing isn't to your liking.

 

[BLUEDOT37]

People often contend that the PC revolvers are better tuned than the non-PCs but I've never found that to be the case in any of the modern day ones I've purchased & they're not immune from the same ills that commonly afflict the non-PCs.

Buy them for their looks or features.

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[colt_saa]

The phrase 629 Deluxe refers to two revolvers, a 3" 629 or a 6 1/2" 629, both equipped with wood grips from the Factory that are produced on the production side of Smith & Wesson

The phrase 629 PC refers to many different variations of the 629 that are produced in the Performance Center

Neither has a "tuned action"

When that phrase is used in reference to a PC revolver all it means is that it uses a different spring set that have been chosen to work together harmoniously.

This is much the same as when a sport car is said to have a "tuned exhaust"

Advertising people hope that you mistake it to mean a person hand tuned your action

You could take 10 of either firearm that you are looking at and probably get 10 different trigger pull weights. Any group of a single model will have great and not so great examples.

One of the best ways to resolve trigger pull worries is to take your NEW revolver, fill it with snap caps and pull the trigger while watching a TV program like the News for half an hour every night.

After a month your trigger pull will be much smoother and it will feel lighter because your trigger finger is now stronger

If you are not patient enough to wait, optionally you can pay a skilled gun smith a hundred or more dollars to smooth your action and put in lighter springs

 

[Miami_JBT]

Current S&W Performance Center is just a marketing brand. Originally, back in the day they turned out true custom jobs. But today, it is just something to slap onto a box and charge more money for.

 

[bunker buster]

Thanks for the info. If anybody have the actual DA pull weight would be much appreciated.

 

[bunker buster]

Thanks for the info. If anybody have the actual factory DA pull weight of both pistol would be much appreciated.

 

[BLUEDOT37]

One is not definitively going to be better than the other.

No matter which one you buy new it's going to be the luck of the drawn on what it'll measure out of the box.

The more you shoot or dry fire it the smoother it'll get. Smoothness doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with trigger pull weight in lbs.

You might luck into one with a 8-9# DA trigger pull but another might be 9-10#, or more.

The readings aren't finite.

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[jcelect]

DA pull weight?.

My trigger pull weight gauge goes up to 12lbs. I have never weighted any new S&W revolver that did not go above the 12lb pull weight! Many went all the way to the stop(an estimated 14lbs+)!
jcelect

 

[daverich4]

One is not definitively going to be better than the other.

No matter which one you buy new it's going to be the luck of the drawn on what it'll measure out of the box.

The more you shoot or dry fire it the smoother it'll get. Smoothness doesn't necessarily go hand in hand with trigger pull weight in lbs.

You might luck into one with a 8-9# DA trigger pull but another might be 9-10#, or more.

The readings aren't finite.

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My M&P R8 Performance Center came with a DA pull more than the 11 lbs that my Lyman Trigger Gauge would measure. Cost me $100 to have my gunsmith take it down to 7 lbs.

 

[BLUEDOT37]

One thing I forgot to acknowledge between the PC & non-PC revolvers:

The modern PC revolvers I've purchased new in the near past do appear to have a different hammer spring than the non-PCs.

Their springs have a groove/ridge down the middle of them where the non-PCs are flat.

People have reported these are the same ones you can get from an aftermarket vendor. (Insert name here.)

I have no first hand knowledge of this & have never played with them or compared them beyond this observation. In fact all of my S&W revolvers (except my J-frames) have factory hammer springs in them. I only replace the rebound spring & polish/smooth the internals for a better SA pull.

I still contend that if any difference exists between these two hammer springs it can be offset by other factors related to craftsmanship, fitting & machining tolerances, either favorably or negatively.

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[Lou_the_welder]

One thing I forgot to acknowledge between the PC & non-PC revolvers:



The modern PC revolvers I've purchased new in the near past do appear to have a different hammer spring than the non-PCs.



Their springs have a groove/ridge down the middle of them where the non-PCs are flat.



People have reported these are the same ones you can get from an aftermarket vendor. (Insert name here.)



I have no first hand knowledge of this & have never played with them or compared them beyond this observation. In fact all of my S&W revolvers (except my J-frames) have factory hammer springs in them. I only replace the rebound spring & polish/smooth the internals for a better SA pull.



I still contend that if any difference exists between these two hammer springs it can be offset by other factors related to craftsmanship, fitting & machining tolerances, either favorably or negatively.



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I think that the PC mainspring, does have a similarity to the Wolff type 2 ( reduced power) mainspring. I don't know if smith and wesson has a deal with them, to buy their parts or not; I've only had dealings with the performance center mainsprings, when I've had to remove them or insert a shaved off SB strain screw- just to make them work.

From wolf's description of their mainspring: ......" for most target and non- critical applications....."
I would consider that most accurate with my assessment of the performance center mainsprings, as they will not fire CCI primers reliably after 1k rounds or so. When the DA pulls drop beneath 8.5#s. Or so I've noted.

In my experience, the flat mainspring on the non - PC guns have the hardest DA pulls. My finger will go numb shooting about 200 rounds or so on a flat spring. Shooting DAO.
The Wilson combat mainspring falls between the flat spring in tension. And the weakest mainspring after alot of use is the performance center ribbed mainspring. Which bears a big resemblance to the Wolff type 2 reduced power spring.

 

[AveragEd]

In this day and age, trigger pull weights are regulated by the manufacturers' attorneys. I was able to tour Beretta's Accokeek, Maryland plant 15 years ago and watched an employee testing pull weights on finished Model 92s. She held the cocked handguns vertically by their barrels and hung a weight on their triggers; if the trigger didn't break, the weight was good. If the gun did dryfire, it went back for "adjustment."

Ed

 

[BLUEDOT37]

...with my assessment of the performance center mainsprings, as they will not fire CCI primers reliably after 1k rounds or so. When the DA pulls drop beneath 8.5#s. Or so I've noted.

I don't dispute your observations but as I said earlier all of my S&W revolvers have their original mainsprings & exclusively use CCI primers. Most have lighter rebound springs.

It's been my experience when a new guns purchase had light strikes &/or failure to fire, the fix was a longer firing pin.

Of the multiple choices I have in my herd my PC 325TR has to have the most rounds thru it considering it's evolution from 45ACP/45AR to 45WSM, multiple thousands.

It had it's firing pin replaced on day two, still has the PC mainspring & hasn't had any ignition issues using CCI primers. None of them have.

I know people complain about CCI's being hard to ignite but I don't doubt that the 8.5# threshold is the key.

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[bunker buster]

I'm happy to report that the pull weight of my New Model 629 Deluxe was 9 Lbs! (To my surprise/delight) SA was about 4 Lbs using my Lyman electronic gauge.

Initially I was thinking of getting the TK custom spring kit but according to them the pull weight is also 9lbs.

Not sure if my revolver is unique or if it is made that way. Irregardless its a happy surprise.

 

[jeffrefrig]

I'm happy for your new acquisition! I've been following this, as my plain old 629-6, I bought used and it's date is July 2016 The DA pull is avg. 7#8oz., and SA is 1#8oz., Lyman gauge, so someone must've had it worked on.
So, we'll see a picture or more?! Peace!