Some lady cops can sure shoot!!!

[cmansguns]

Ok...OK...OK.... yes...I am very biased. My youngest daughter just passed her 10 year "on da job" mark with State LEO Agency.

She had a "special" qualifications over five days last week while it was bitter cold and temps really dropped for the nighttime shoots (with stress factors....lights, sirens, perceived threats...you LEO's know the drill).

Anyway the reason for the special qualification was because her agency joined the modern LEO age at a cost of $4 million or so changing from Glock 21 (.45 ACP) to Glock 45 (9 mm) pistols with under rail flashlight. She told me the attached flashlight thing is really different in feel and response on target, but she got a good handle on it right out of the box "er...holster".

Last November she earned a Advanced Law Enforcement Certificate from the State of North Carolina so I'm proud as heck.

So......despite the bitter cold, snowy days, frigid nights her scores were really tops. Daytime Pistol: 94.4 (brand new gun); Nighttime pistol: 98; Daytime shotgun: 89 (cause broken shotgun stock, threw 1 slug out), Nighttime shotgun (with fixed shotgun): 99! She was po'd at that one little pellet darn it!!

The officers have been given a choice to buy their "retired" service weapons, the Glock 21 Gen 4 with serial number ending with NCSP, and she asked me if I thought that would be a good idea, and I told her that on this S&W Forum, there is a lot of interest in duty weapons with history and provenance, and there are LEO's that still probably wish they had has the opportunity or the money to buy their guns back at the time.

I felt it would be a good thing to buy it, even if it ends up someday in a shadow box along with your badge on the wall.

Anyway.....thanks for reading and as I said...just could not be any prouder.

 

[WardenRoss]

Excellent shooting considering the weather!

That's way better than the average male officer in perfect conditions.

EDIT: In the old days, a consistent 95% earned you an EXPERT ribbon. A constant 100% was MASTER. All this was done away with, with most departments and they only record a score of "pass" or "fail" officially. The percentage score was only listed on the trainer's roster.

 

[Protocall_Design]

Great shooting! You have every right to be proud. Someday that skill could save lives.

 

[crows]

Ok...OK...OK.... yes...I am very biased. My youngest daughter just passed her 10 year "on da job" mark with State LEO Agency.

She had a "special" qualifications over five days last week while it was bitter cold and temps really dropped for the nighttime shoots (with stress factors....lights, sirens, perceived threats...you LEO's know the drill).

Anyway the reason for the special qualification was because her agency joined the modern LEO age at a cost of $4 million or so changing from Glock 21 (.45 ACP) to Glock 45 (9 mm) pistols with under rail flashlight. She told me the attached flashlight thing is really different in feel and response on target, but she got a good handle on it right out of the box "er...holster".

Last November she earned a Advanced Law Enforcement Certificate from the State of North Carolina so I'm proud as heck.

So......despite the bitter cold, snowy days, frigid nights her scores were really tops. Daytime Pistol: 94.4 (brand new gun); Nighttime pistol: 98; Daytime shotgun: 89 (cause broken shotgun stock, threw 1 slug out), Nighttime shotgun (with fixed shotgun): 99! She was po'd at that one little pellet darn it!!

The officers have been given a choice to buy their "retired" service weapons, the Glock 21 Gen 4 with serial number ending with NCSP, and she asked me if I thought that would be a good idea, and I told her that on this S&W Forum, there is a lot of interest in duty weapons with history and provenance, and there are LEO's that still probably wish they had has the opportunity or the money to buy their guns back at the time.

I felt it would be a good thing to buy it, even if it ends up someday in a shadow box along with your badge on the wall.

Anyway.....thanks for reading and as I said...just could not be any prouder.

I would say buy it. I have every handgun and two long guns I was issued over the years. They are all tucked away in the safe, not on display, but still nifty to have.

 

[Iggy]

Itchy was the first female commissioned Deputy Sheriff in Wyoming.

We were the first married couple in law enforcement in Wyoming.

She always out shot all the guys in the Sheriff's Office on their quarterly qualifications with a .38 snubby, which made them mad and they wouldn't speak to her until it was about time to shoot again.


That was 50 years ago and she still out shoots me.

 

[raljr1]

Itchy was the first female commissioned Deputy Sheriff in Wyoming.



We were the first married couple in law enforcement in Wyoming.



She always out shot all the guys in the Sheriff's Office on their quarterly qualifications with a .38 snubby, which made them mad and they wouldn't speak to her until it was about time to shoot again.





That was 50 years ago and she still out shoots me.

She's a helluva lot prettier than you too

Robert

 

[jscheck]

I bought all of my duty guns (less the long guns-since they didn't offer those). Hopefully my son will keep those after I'm gone to pass on to my grand kids.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

About 60 years ago, the first female Law Enforcment Lieutenant in the US was Jeannie Brea of the Columbus Ohio PD. She was on the 2-time national champion Police Combat pistol team and was OIC. My F-I-L was her academy firearms instructor and shot on the team with her for years.

Even in a skirt, those gals sure can shoot. In the 60's the service uniform was a skirt, and they had to run, shoot, drive, and tackle & cuff a bad guy in uniform, just like the guys!

The 50's & 60's, when "The cops were tuff, the guns were revolvers!"

Ivan

Geannie died of breast cancer many years ago, but her picture with the team still hangs in a place of honor in his home.

 

[The Last Standing Knight]

Excellent shooting considering the weather!

That's way better than the average male officer in perfect conditions.

EDIT: In the old days, a consistent 95% earned you an EXPERT ribbon. A constant 100% was MASTER. All this was done away with, with most departments and they only record a score of "pass" or "fail" officially. The percentage score was only listed on the trainer's roster.

Yes....I know
It was pass/fail when I went through the academy in the early 90's. I was one of the academy's high scores on both day and night shoots.

 

[llowry61]

Congrats on raising a successful child. You should be proud tough to do nowadays.

 

[Golddollar]

I felt it would be a good thing to buy it, even if it ends up someday in a shadow box along with your badge on the wall.

In a heartbeat!

 

[Matt_X]

IMO. The best target to practice centerfire pistol marksmanship is the B-8. Pistoleer dot com sells in smaller quantities - I'm sure there are other places as well. The bullseye is a good size for 10 to 25 yds - and its a standard that is widely used. It can be used closer, but fo developening marksmanship, a smaller bull or something like the NRA Basic Pistol targets are good.



I'm old school when it comes to learning skills. Develop good form and habits before trying to go fast. For self defense or comparisons (or just for the fun of it) with various quaiifcations, look at Q targets, B-27 as some of the most cmmon but there is a wide range of what has been and is used.


Lucky Gunner Lounge has a series on the various FBI qualifactions over the years. Although Chris 'cheats', you can do whatever floats your boat. Anyway thats an easily acessible source if you want to know what some handgun quals look like.

curious here, as in Michigan MCOLES firearm testing is done at 15 yards for accuracy.. the rest is at 4, 7, and 10 yards for daylight pistol. Shotgun is done at 15 yards. And rifle is done at 25.

https://www.michigan.gov/-/media/Pr...tion.pdf?rev=9fb11f5d5df04921b126eecaa25c7233

. The target for assessment of Section XI. B. is blank target that measures 25½ inches long by 11
inches wide (equivalent to stacking 3 - 11 inch x 8½ inch letter size paper vertically on a target
backer).
B. Distance from shooter to target – 4 Yards
C. Time Limit – None
D. Shooting Position – Shooter’s choice (Note: Range or other factors may limit choices)
E. Starting Position – Ready Position
F. Number of Rounds – Five (5)
G. On the command to fire, the shooter aims at the target and fires until all 5 rounds have been fired.
H. Scoring – (100% ) all five (5) rounds must be within the confines of the paper (25½ inch by 11 inch
boundary)
I.
To successfully complete the range firing portion, the participant must complete tasks “G” and “H”
2 out of 3 attempts

This is the only document i can find online, even in the state website that deals with the shooting portion. When i first saw the requirements on 2000, it was "empty gun into 8x12" sheet of paper at X yards..

Its just that Ive been trying to use 4" diameter bullseyes at 20 yards. And ive finally done the studying on my handgun and it doesnt like any ammunition that is under 900fps.

 

[Muddyboot]

Not only lady cops, I've observed many female shooters over the years at shooting ranges with excellent marksmanship. Whoa to the thief's who broke into these lady's house thinking they had an easy mark.

 

[jeffrefrig]

An off duty police woman just happened to be in a bank here in Pittsburgh when a guy came in to rob the joint. I don't remember the specifics, but her 10mm stopped the robbery. I remember she was crying and apologized to everyone who witnessed it. I think it was the first time she had to pull her trigger. I was surprised she had a 10mm. Either way, no matter how tough or weak one may be, a decent gun can be a great equalizer.
Congrats to your daughter!