strange walmart experience

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clerk was making a guy fill out a yello sheet for a black powder rifle,i had to ask why and was told" because its the law mister" so i had to ask "when did it change,i been buying thru the mail for years and never had to do it"(cw rifles&pistols),clerk said "man you are one lucky ***,you get caught and your a gonner"now you would think he should know the laws but i guess you dont have to to work in sporting goods. i sure would like to be a fly on the wall when he calls it in tho
 
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clerk was making a guy fill out a yello sheet for a black powder rifle,i had to ask why and was told" because its the law mister" so i had to ask "when did it change,i been buying thru the mail for years and never had to do it"(cw rifles&pistols),clerk said "man you are one lucky ***,you get caught and your a gonner"now you would think he should know the laws but i guess you dont have to to work in sporting goods. i sure would like to be a fly on the wall when he calls it in tho

Wally World has some very strange ways of handling anything that has to do with firearms/ammo. I will bet that the store employee has to carry that "gun" to his car as another thing that will occur in that transition.

Most all things they do are prompts in the cash register, clerk hits gun purchase and it says YOU MUST GET THE FED FORM FILLED OUT! Most of the people I see at WW just help out in the sporting goods dept & do not even know the difference between a shotgun and rifle.
 
Just because someone works in a store doesnt make them a expert. I once was standing near a woman who had inherited a sporting goods store from her dad. A guy wanted .38 special ammo and she was trying to sell him .38 S&W and thought it would work. I had to educate her. At least she listened to me. Last year I was trail rideing ATV`s with a friend who was mad that his ammo was no good. He was shooting a .32 H&R revolver and the clerk had sold him .32 auto.
In this world you can call 10 different times to the IRS and get 10 different answers to the same question. Sometimes its that way when you call the desk sergeant too!
 
The two largest gun shops in central PA require customers to fill out a 4473 and get the PA instant check to purchase black powder arms. Both have signs posted near the BP guns. I asked why and was told they didn't want to be responsible for selling ANY gun to someone who is prohibited from buying a modern gun. Guess Walmart has the same policy.
 
Just the CYA memo from the corporate lawyers telling them that anything that shoots goes on a 4473.

A couple modern versions of M/Ldrs do have to be sold on a 4473. But the vast majority do not.

Sometimes State or Local laws could require some sort of paperwork. But as far as the Fed is concerned, it's not a 'firearm'.
Many shops around here do the 4473 and NICS on pre-'99 cartridge rifles when the Fed law clearly states they are not regulated by them.
Same answer when asked why,,because we don't want to be responsible,,,,,. Their shop,,their call.
But if they really don't know what the law /regs are,,that's just a poorly informed clerk or businessman behind the counter passing along a lot of bad info.
 
If you buy the BP version of the T/C encore (I believe) You will be required to fill out a 4473. The Feds have decreed so because of the ease of changing the barrel to a cartridge. There are probably a couple more such as that out there, I haven't kept up with the modern BP rifles. If it don't have a rock in it's jaws it ain't a muzzle loader!

By the way, my LGS requires a 4473 on ALL firearms, shop policy as a precaution.
 
A strange experience at Walmart, is when I find a parking spot in the same block as the store, find whatever I may need, don't have to deal with surely customers, don't have to stand in line for 30 minuets to check out, and deal with employees with an attitude.

As a special bonus, if I'm really lucky I will have just missed the welfare queen who just has to cut to the head of the 10 items of less checkout line with 50 items in her cart.
 
I wonder what old Mr.Walton would think of his stores.One of my kids worked at walmart when he was in high school and the old man was in charge.Took a job at another for awhile after college.Said it was entirely different now.
 
Just because someone works in a store doesnt make them a expert....

A plant that I worked in (maintenance) hired a woman to work in the tool room - BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO HAVE ANOTHER FEMALE EMPLOYEE.

I was standing in line at the window when another electrician asked for *two 1/2 inch close nipples*.
She went off on him - Closed the window and IMMEDIATELY called a lawyer to file a sexual harassment suit :eek:

I quit several years later - She was still there when I left - And she still didn't have a clue as to what was in that storeroom :rolleyes:
 
My local Hell-Mart store demands to see your pistol license before they will sell you "pistol" ammunition.
You may argue, "That doesn't make any sense! Several 'pistol' calibers are also widely used in rifles or carbines, etc."
They'll tell you "tough *!#%" and refuse to sell you the "pistol" ammo.
I do have my pistol license, but that is none of Wal-mart's business.
 
I know of gunshops that make (suspicious-acting/looking) customers fill out 4473 forms , just to cover their six against possible civil litigation.
 
I was at 'China Mart' aka Wal-Mart yesterday. Had 3 items to check out in the "20 or less items". There were two women together who looked to be in their mid to late 80's. I think they probably had poor eyesight and read the sign to say '200 or less items'. Since I wasn'tr going anywhere anyway I counted the items the cashier was scanning.

I counted 62 items, and they were about half finished when I walked up.
 
4473 Form at Walmart

About 7 years ago I was away from the area where I live and they were just opening a new Walmart in Morgantown, Pa. They had a Ruger SS 10-22 rifle for sale at a real good price. I bought the gun and filled out the 4473 form, with the pen that was in my pocket, which had blue ink. That was on a Saturday afternoon. Of Monday I received a phone call from a Supv at Walmart telling me to return to the store to fill out the the 4473 form in black ink as required by Walmart policy and Fed Law. I was an FFL holder and knew that wasn't a law. I told the supervisor that I would be happy to comply with Walmarts policy, but that they would have to bring the paper work to my office for me to complete. My office was a good 60 miles from that store. That was the last that I heard of that matter.
 
The guy at the Walmart sporting goods counter knows as much about guns as the gas station clerk knows about drilling oil. It's just a product and they've been taught how to push the register buttons the charge the right amount for it.

One night while buying ammo I got to be a "fly on the wall" and listen to a conversation between several of the employees. The "main" character was thumbing through a booklet of firearms they could order. He was explaining to another clerk that he wanted a shotgun but didn't want the Remington 870 because he didn't want to shoot 3 inch mags.

Puzzled, I waited for more. He went on to explain to his partner that the 870 shoots 3 inch magnum shells...and that he didn't want to shoot those so he had to find a different shotgun...one that would shoot 2 3/4 shells.

It took me a few moments to digest the magnitude of what I was hearing. This guy thought he couldn't shoot 2 3/4 inch shells through a Remington 870 pump gun because it said "3 inch Mag" somewhere on the barrel.

I interrupted slowly, and calmly...as if I were talking to someone just awaking from a coma...and I explained to him that he didn't have to shoot 3 inch mags through the gun...that he could quite easily (and safely) shoot 2 3/4 shells instead.

He stared blankly, mouth slightly agape as he processed this information. It took a few more rounds of explanation but in the end, while he might not have understood why, he knew that he could.

Short story...they don't get any more training on guns than they do on the Nerf footballs they sell two aisles over. It's just products with price stickers...the only difference is the paperwork.
 
A plant that I worked in (maintenance) hired a woman to work in the tool room - BECAUSE THEY NEEDED TO HAVE ANOTHER FEMALE EMPLOYEE.

I was standing in line at the window when another electrician asked for *two 1/2 inch close nipples*.
She went off on him - Closed the window and IMMEDIATELY called a lawyer to file a sexual harassment suit :eek:

I quit several years later - She was still there when I left - And she still didn't have a clue as to what was in that storeroom :rolleyes:

that happened to me too,applyed at toyota in the skilled maintenance dept(i was a tool&cutter grinder) and was told i didnt have enough experance(did it for 16 yrs) a single mom right out of vo-teck got it because they needed a woman in that dept
 
Most Walmarts around Philly dont sell guns and only some sell ammo. But i dont really care if they want to carry it for me or ask for my id when buying ammo. Im 33 and still get carded sometimes for smokes and beer. Should i be pissed at them too? They have a job to do just like you and I. No one wants to be in trouble or fired for something minor like not checking id or carrying the rifle. Because the one time they dont do it and something happens ...well we all know which way poop flows! I think everyone is getting offended way to easy. How about the car salesman who needs to see my DL and insurance before selling me a car. I have it but its none of the dealership's business, right!?!? Or the bar tender who has to check id's!
 
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