Tactical Pens and airport security

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This could go into the lounge but since it has an impact on concealed carrying of weapons I am putting it here. Besides, it relates a little to this other thread:

http://smith-wessonforum.com/concea...555092-speed-loaders-five-shot-cylinders.html

Okay, so, how many of you carry a tactical pen? I will presume that all of you know what they are but, if not, run a search and you will see.

The one thing most tactical pens have in common is that they do not possess a blade. There are one or two that have some kind of blade but they are rare and then that makes them a knife and totally inappropriate for airport security and most other types of security/metal detectors we run into.

A good tactical pen is definitely a pen. It has a ballpoint refill and can be used just like any pen. Some tactical pens have glass breakers on the cap or tip (for car windows), some have rounded bases for striking, some are round but pointed for more serious striking, some have a cup-like structure on the top useful for striking or collecting DNA (and the literature says that). They are all made from aircraft aluminum or a similar metal and can be used defensively in close quarters in a variety of ways.

The problem for the TSA is that they view tactical pens as offensive weapons. "Kubatons" is what they call them. They WILL confiscate them the same way they will confiscate a knife - or let you go back and give it to someone or mail it to yourself, etc.

I tell you all this because on my last flight I had my usual tactical pen in my carry on bag, as always, and it always passed through security until this last trip. I figured they were okay for travel until the TSA lady went nuts over it - that's how I learned that they consider them to be offensive kubatons. I was like, "Seriously? This little thing?" Didn't matter, she was determined, and that was that.

So now you know.
 
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Every week I travel for my job. 60-80 flights per year. A couple international flights as well
For 4 years plus I have carried a S&W tactical pen. It is well made out of aluminum
It is in my computer bad in a zipper pouch with calendar and note pad
Never once had an issue, and it gets run thru the scanner is very time
 
I have read on many a forum where people are getting their tac pens confiscated in recent months for what it's worth.

That being said the old tried and true zebra f-301 is all I carry. Cheap, refillable, and low profile.
 
FOR OFFENSE OR DEFENSE.

DOES IT MATTER? A weapon is a weapon, regardless of how it may be disguised, or used. PRETTY SURE most people of sound mind know that bringing a weapon on an airline is a NO NO. Congrats on sneaking them by TSA agents. :rolleyes: Got caught??? There's NO CRYING in sneaking contraband aboard. IMO you got off easy. Perhaps a new area for WHAT IN THE WORLD WERE YOU THINKING is needed? :rolleyes:
 
DOES IT MATTER? A weapon is a weapon, regardless of how it may be disguised, or used. PRETTY SURE most people of sound mind know that bringing a weapon on an airline is a NO NO. Congrats on sneaking them by TSA agents. :rolleyes: Got caught??? There's NO CRYING in sneaking contraband aboard. IMO you got off easy. Perhaps a new area for WHAT IN THE WORLD WERE YOU THINKING is needed? :rolleyes:

My belt buckle is a weapon. So is a steel toe boot. A cane is a weapon. A sock with a soda can or stack of quarters is a weapon. A pen is a pen.

So what is your point?
 
NOT HARDLY.

My belt buckle is a weapon. So is a steel toe boot. A cane is a weapon. A sock with a soda can or stack of quarters is a weapon. A pen is a pen.

So what is your point?

MY POINT is that the OP should have known a tactical pen was NOT made for writing, and would not be allowed on an airplane, or get confiscated if discovered.
IF the tactikewl pen is SO HARMLESS, why the need to disguise it to smuggle it aboard. The items you mentioned were made for OTHER purposes than a weapon, & MAY BE improvised into a weapon. NOT SO the tactical pen. This is my rifle, this is my gun. :D
 
I'm pretty sure my sterling Parker ballpoint could be used as a weapon. It even has a crosshatched surface for better grippitude.
 
Nacho is partially correct. It is, arguably, a weapon. But I never tried to conceal it from the TSA - I always clipped it to the OUTSIDE, OPEN pocket of my carry-on bag. It was ALWAYS visible. If they ignored it on some dozen or more flights why was it suddenly such a big deal? I didn't ever try to hide it from TSA and when I went through any number of NYC metal detectors I always tossed it openly into the little plastic thing you put your keys and phones in. One guy said, "Hmm...Tactical pen?" I said, "Yup." He let it through. So I was NOT then nor have I ever tried to hide the thing from anyone. It is hardly any different from the aluminum Rotring pen that I carry and that pen was no problem. Someone at TSA decided it was an evil thing and that was that.
 
I don't fly, my teeth can be used as a weapon, and I am not taking them out. They are still attached to my jawbone.

How is it people can fly with dogs, a very effective weapon.
 
THEN WHY THE TERM "TACTICAL"? NOT FOR THE COLOR OF THE INK.

A Montblank, a bic, a tactical pen, and a sharp pencil walk into a bar. :D ALL will hurt if stuck in your eye. Let's be real, the tactical pen was specifically designed to be strong enough to be used for stabbing, an impact weapon, or "DNA collector". Can we simply call a spade a spade? A cop at say a courthouse that let one get by, & it was then used, NOT FOR WRITING, would be in some hot water, I'd hope. ;)
 
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I don't use a tactical pen. I do carry a Zebra F701 because I like sturdy pens. Never had a problem with them as far as security screenings, including the TSA (when put in my carry-on bag) and a courthouse. If it does get confiscated, I can swing by an office supply store and pick one up for less than $10.
 
Pen was a gift from a customer.
It is a pen!
I had no idea it was tactical!?!
There are also 4or 5 zip ties in my bag
 
ANYONE RECALL

Rocker Rick (no pun) Derringer was arrested a while back for a handgun in his carry on bag. "He claimed" I've been touring/flying VERY often (30ish years) & have ALWAYS had my handgun in my carry on bag. :eek::D Like with fishing, you can't catch them all, but come on. ;) Like the "secret" handgun pocket in fanny packs, the "secret" gets out, after a while.
 
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DOES IT MATTER? A weapon is a weapon, regardless of how it may be disguised, or used. PRETTY SURE most people of sound mind know that bringing a weapon on an airline is a NO NO. Congrats on sneaking them by TSA agents. :rolleyes: Got caught??? There's NO CRYING in sneaking contraband aboard. IMO you got off easy. Perhaps a new area for WHAT IN THE WORLD WERE YOU THINKING is needed? :rolleyes:

Is a box cutter a weapon? It is disappointing that someone on a gun forum thinks it is the inanimate object that is capable of evil.
 
A tactical pen IS a pen. It will write and can be used as a daily workimg pen.

Exactly what separates this aluminum sheath len from other aluminum, metal or other material pen?

If it were in fact a fake oen, unusable as a pen then there would be an argument to be made it is not a pen. Well because it in fact is NOT a pen when there is no ink or usable as a pen.

Makes as much sense as the Brits making kitchen knives with a point illegal. After all outlawing guns didnt work (gun crime in britain is UP 16%. Seems the criminals didn’t follow the law). I’m sure outlawing knives will work equally ineffectively! I suppose Britain will soo outlaw tennis balls as they can be projected through the air and used as a weapon.

Give me a break!
 

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