That pesky Remington XP-100

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I titled the thread after one that lingers on the internet on the Kennedy assasination. I've had a total of 3 XP-100's. The first 2 I bought in the '70's and should have kept both, but that's another story. The third one was purchased at the Hannau Rod and Gun Club new in 1987. I spotted it while buying reloading supplies. It was a 14 1/2 inch varmint model in .223 Rem, brand new. The guy behind the counter saw me looking at it and told me it had been there quite a while and he would make me a good deal. $250.00 out the door with everything. Sometime thereafter, I acquired a 2X6 Redfield EER scope, and that has been how this has been set up for 24 years now. This has been the most accurate gun I have ever owned, rifles included. Alas, Remington in their infinite wisdom discontinued the XP-100 completely in 1994. Everyone in the world started making "plastic" pistols, and Remington stopped making the best one ever conceived. They've completely quit stocking parts for these guns. My bolt stop has broken, and the bolt will come completely out the back if not careful, which is not that big of a deal except it sometimes is a PITA when letting someone unfamiliar with the gun shoot it. Also, I have wanted something other than the "nylon" stock for years. A lot of companies offer inletted blanks, but finished stocks are few and far between and expensive. Joel Russo wants $ 850.00 for a completed one. I can buy another XP-100 off gunbroker for that. I guess I should leave well enough alone, but some nights, I wake up and have all these ideas.............. So, I guess the point of this is, does anyone else on this forum have any interest in the XP?? If so, I'd like to have a conversation.
 
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Herrett makes a stock, I believe. I remember that R&G club. I was stationed in Frankfurt at V Corps HQ from '86 to '90 and my wife was assigned to the 3d AD's maintenance battalion at Fleigerhorst.
 
Last winter, I bought an XP-100 in 7mm Rem BR with a really nice-looking walnut stock, perhaps factory but I really don't know. Nice trigger, Wichita rear, front Lyman on a screwed-up base relocated to the muzzle of the pistol. I had to get a different-height Lyman and return the base to where it came from, but I finally got it all ironed out. Had what I thought I always wanted, a long-range pistol with a Wichita four-position rear sight. Only it really didn't match my eyesight and spectacle choice. So I packed up the Wichita and its three Allen wrenches, and mounted a nearly perfect Leupold M8-2x EER [Thanks, buffalo4star!], and proceeded to learn that this XP-100 is good for better than MOA at 200, 100 and 50 yards. And that's with a 2x scope, with which I barely feel that I can see that well. No telling what this gun would do with a higher-power scope, but I want something fairly light and usable at moderate ranges, so I'm pretty sure that I'll be sticking with the 2x.

I didn't dicker with the seller over price, but he included Wilson dies, 100 cases and a few hundred bullets. The great load I shot with was the one he had worked up. It loads quickly and painlessly with H335 dropped by my Harrell's, has a beautiful stock and beautiful performance. It's not leaving any time soon.
 
I was over in Wiesbaden '85 to '90. I shot skeet at the Mainz Finthen Skeet club back in those days. Good times. So, you were in that Abram's building up there in downtown Frankfurt. I remember it well.

ChuckS1 said:
Herrett makes a stock, I believe. I remember that R&G club. I was stationed in Frankfurt at V Corps HQ from '86 to '90 and my wife was assigned to the 3d AD's maintenance battalion at Fleigerhorst.
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In the early 80's I had an XP-100 in .221Fireball and for some foolish reason I traded it off and started collecting TC Contenders and barrels. It shot good but wasn't a tack driver as I remember it.

4yrs ago I bought a Savage 516 FSS in .243Win and it is an absolute tack driver. It only had a 4x scope on it so I replaced it with a Burris 3x-12x and worked up handloads. I was initially disappointed with it until I figured out it needed a firm grip. Now I've been able to print 3 shot groups under 1/4moa @100yds with it.

A couple of years ago there was an XP-100 in 7mmBR at the local gun shop but while I was investigating brass for the cartridge it sold.

It's amazing just how accurate some of these bolt action pistols can be. I've taken a groundhog at 350yds with my Savage. The Savage trigger did take a little work to refine but the nice thing about the gun is the left hand bolt.
 
I own two of them. One is the Plain Jane .221 Fireball and the other is a tricked out IHMSA 7mm International with a fancy stock and long barrel. Both are tack drivers, but the 7mm is some noisy. The 7mm Int. is a 300 Savage necked down to 7mm and was one of Elgin Gates IHMSA wildcats.
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About two years ago, I walked into a local small bait shop/grill/gun shop (great combo, huh?) and saw a pretty clean XP 100 in 221 Fireball. He was asking $175 for the gun, which was clean with but a bit of freckling on the bolt and bolt knob, complete with a Weaver base installed. He let me take it out back and pop one off to "see if it worked" then threw in the rest of the box Remington .221 with the deal. I put a nicer base and rings and a Weaver 1 - 4 X 20mm pistol scope on it and it shoots great. (LOUD :eek:) Nicest thing was the gun dates to the first year of production, 1963. I'm glad I picked it up, even though I sure wasn't looking for one :D
 
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You should be able to get a bolt stop for your pistol. Parts are around from the different parts suppliers.
There's 2 different styles IIRC. One for the early nylon stocked XP100 and one for the XP100R.

Some of the difference bolt stop parts require an FFL to purchase. I don't believe the earlier style XP100 bolt stop itself does as the pistol was introduced prior to the Mod 600 Carbine which shares the same action. The early style spring and/or pin may require one though.

Maybe they've done away with all that nonsense by now..
 
phenson said:
So, I guess the point of this is, does anyone else on this forum have any interest in the XP?? If so, I'd like to have a conversation.
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I have an old, original Fireball in .221, complete with manual, and it's cheesy brown vinyl zip-case. Serial number A75021xxx - no idea when it was made. I've had it for more than a few years but have shot it very little, so I know hardly anything about it - except that it IS loud. I was never impressed with its trigger, but the things can be tuned. I just never got around to having it done. I was always a lot more interested in Jets.

I bought the gun to use as a base-gun for converting to an IHMSA gun. As luck would have it, more or less as soon as I got it, the club closed where I was shooting IHMSA, and it was too much driving to go to the next one almost twice as far away. So my Fireball has lived a rather dull life.

I do distinctly remember the racket of those 7mms that were popular back then. Sometimes I would be unfortunate enough to be shooting my revolver with those guys on either side. I learned to just show up late and ask to be on a squad with no Contenders or XPs. :D Lots of times I would be shooting by myself, or with another few revolver shooters who had the same idea.

These days, I have a little problem ( :o ) with my hearing. It's not due to the Fireball, or the Jets, of course. The short story is that I try not to shoot anything that makes too much of a racket, so the Fireball and the Jets have just been sitting around since my "problem" was discovered. No sense making things worse than they are.

If anyone feels inclined to hazard a guess what a fair selling price might be for the gun, I would appreciate it. It really should be in the hands of someone who will use it.

If this has drifted a little too far from "conversation," I apologize for that. It at least started with good intentions. :)
 
In the early '90's I traded a Marlin 1894 44 mag + $50 for an XP-100 at the start of deer season. The XP had been sitting on the shelf for 7 months. I had $103 in the Marlin, the XP was tagged at $350. The scoped Marlin couldn't hit a 5 gallon bucket at 50 yards. With a box of Federal mil-spec 223 55 grain FMJ ammo and a 2X pistol scope, the XP fired 5 shots at 100 yards that I covered with a dime. I still have that paper target and the XP. The muzzle flash was really special with rifle ammo -- blinding while shooting in sunshine is not an understatement.

With reloads, 50 gr HP with AA 2015 powder, muzzle flash was minimal and accuracy was 5-shot clover leafs at 100 yards. If I could see a prairie dog in the scope, I could hit the target. Amazing accuracy with a handgun.

EDIT: I sold the XP-100 in late 2015 for way too much money -- enough to pay for a "winter" weekend in Minnesota with a friends in January 2016 and air fare.
 
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Thanks, John. I wonder where Blackpowderx came from? I didn't take the time to read much on that site, but I will come back to it later. That's a very interesting system - a bit different than what I am used to. :)
 
Gun World June 1963

Hi all,
The good old days when a review was a real test of gear.
Here is a picture from Gun world magazine June 1963.
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There is a great review and a page of load data with notes like "Too hot don't use" Made me wonder why the published them?
Also here is mine. It is 7 BR and built and rebuilt by Frank Glenn. It is one of those that if I told you how well it shoots you would think I was windy.
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Thanks a million.
Mike
 
phenson said:
I titled the thread after one that lingers on the internet on the Kennedy assasination.
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I had to google that one. Never heard that particular rumor before.

People need to get over this. The Warren Commission determined the 6.5mm Manlicher Carcano rifle to be one of the fastest, most accurate race guns on the planet.

Are you doubting the gubmint?:cool:
 
I already believe you. I'd like to talk to you about that Frank Glenn rebuild.
Thanks,
Pat

mstuhr said:
Hi all,
The good old days when a review was a real test of gear.
Here is a picture from Gun world magazine June 1963.
IMGP0318.jpg

There is a great review and a page of load data with notes like "Too hot don't use" Made me wonder why the published them?
Also here is mine. It is 7 BR and built and rebuilt by Frank Glenn. It is one of those that if I told you how well it shoots you would think I was windy.
IMGP0302.jpg


Thanks a million.
Mike
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