The Great .38

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Like most people, when given the chance between a .38 Spl. or a .357 Revolver, I'd always choose the .357 mag. But as I've gotten older, and hopefully wiser, I just don't shoot .357 mag. Or really have a use for one.

Most of my handguns revolve around protection against 2 legged threats. And shorter barrel lengths for carry (2"-4"). .357 Mag was the manstopper back in the day, but .38 was no slouch either with the right ammo. When I carry a revolver, a .38 Spl loaded with WC, HP's, or SWCHP's will get the job done without excessive recoil and blast. Which means for me, a quicker follow-up shot. Modern .38 spl. also lets you go from light target up to hot +P. Even if I were to carry a .357 mag loaded with magnums, it would probably be one of the lighter 1100-1200 fps loads. Honestly, that's probably all you need for 2-legged Self-defense.

Recently. I've gotten back into wheel guns. And where I'd normally get all excited about a .357 mag, I've actually been looking at .38 Specials. Sure, I can shoot .38 in a .357 mag gun, but if I'm probably never going to, why not just buy one of the excellent .38 K frames that are available. And the price tag is usually $100-$200 less. As an example, everyone loves the model 19. But good luck finding one. And it will run you $800+. While I saw no less than 3 model 15's sitting at my local shop for $650. Two were practically new (-3 & -4) and had been there at least a month.

There's nothing wrong with having some magnum guns as needed. And they make a great trail gun in most non-griz States. Or for hunting. But Buffalo Bore's 38/44 HC load in .38+P may fill the same role (158 gr @ 1150 fps out of a 4" or 1250 fps out of a 6").

For me, my current needs and focus will probably be on .38 Spl.

Part of my .38 collection

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I do have a few .357 mags.

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I found this like new 67-6 for $499 today at a local shop. It was cheaper than comparable .357's. Yeah it has the lock, but I'll get over it.

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I shoot almost nothing but 38 wadcutters these days. I admit that I shoot a lot of them in a pair of Colt Pythons, but I've got my share of 38 only I suppose.

Model 15-2

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1954 38 M&P

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And I saw this one at the LGS the other day and bought it mostly because it was inexpensive. Turns out it's a pretty decent shooter too.

Rossi, Model 31 from the Interarms era, 75-85. A five shot, J-frame size, with a 4" barrel.

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Just loaded up a couple hundred wadcutters yesterday.

So yea...38's?

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I like the .357 only for the convenience of shooting .38 spl after a couple or 3 cylinders of .357 mag. Same as the .44 mag & spl. Heck, even the .327 Fed Mag shoots with all the power of a BB gun with most any .32 caliber. We have choices, and I like that. .38 spl is a great all-around caliber, though, as stated.
 
I have big hands, long fingers, and have only two N frame pistols, a Python and an older S&W Highway Patrol pistol. They both were uncomfortable to shoot, with my finger knuckle being whacked on the grip when shooting them, so for the Python, i got a set of big Altamont grips for it, and it is a joy to shoot my own 38sp and 357 loads. But my HP pistol has the target stocks, and I just don't shoot it much at all, hurts my fingers too much to enjoy.

So I just don't see myself adding a smaller frame pistol to my shooting hobby. For my assorted striker pistols, I use mags with some sort of mag "pinkie" extension to be able to have a secure grip with them.

Like 45 and 9mm, 38sp and 357 are a breeze to reload, and inexpensive too. I admire the smaller frame pistols, but just can't enjoy shooting them. Here, my only full custom pistol, a 9mm Cylinder & Slide 1911, showing how even a big pistol is barely large enough for me to get a secure grip on it. SF VET
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My only revolvers actually chambered in .38 Spcl. are the little 5-shooters. But in my dotage, I mostly shoot .38 Spcl. in the .357 revolvers too. The .357 and 10MM are about the heaviest recoiling handguns I shoot now days. Recoil that used to be tolerable, .41, .44, .454, etc., is not so much fun anymore;)

BTW, I recently tested a couple different Underwood .38 Spcl. +P loads in 2" and 4" revolvers. It is far and away the most energetic .38 Spcl. I've encountered. The 125 grain load averaged 1090 FPS in a 2" barrel, 1263 FPS in a 4". The 158 SWC averaged 1055 FPS in the 2", 1207 FPS in the 4". No indications of excess pressure, no sticky extraction, etc. Recoil in a 2" airweight revolver was, shall we say, "noticeable";)
 
I never load .357s into my revolvers. It's unnecessary, it's overkill/over-penetration in the house, and only useful in the field or as a law enforcement round from back in the day. IMHO YMMV

Then, again, if I'm shooting my M27 Classic I might load it hot but that would be at the range or in the field.
 
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I do enjoy shooting my Ruger Three screw Blackhawk with .357 magnum loads but can't disagree with your assessment of the .38 Special .
I have a S&W model 14-1 and a Taurus 85 snub for the .38 Special rounds.
The .38 round fired from my 14-1 is very pleasant to shoot with mild recoil.
 
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I'm about two to one on 38 Special vs 357. And the vast majority of the time the magnums are run with specials.
 
I still do not have a revolver chambered in 38 Special, mine are in 357 Magnum. I like options and revolvers in 357 Magnum give me a lot more options when it comes to ammo selection.
 
My EDC is the 340PD but it’s loaded w/110 grain +P. I did shoot five rounds of .357 once, the recoil was painful, & follow up shots were all over the target.
 
I too shoot only .38 spl in my revolvers.I only have revolvers ,12 of them,and the only one I have that is not a.38 spl is a 6 in. model 19 as my son got my old duty Python 20 years ago.
 
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