The Irishman on Netflix

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For those with Netflix, the new movie "The Irishman" just started. Despite the leading role actor being Robert DeNero, it is probably the best thing I have yet seen on Netflix, but it's nearly 3-1/2 hours long. Also stars Joe Pesci and Al Pacino (as Jimmy Hoffa). Directed by Martin Scorsese. It's right up there with The Godfather Part I. Don't miss it.
 
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"Always use a new gun right out of the box"
"A .32 is just right"

The Crazy Joe Gallo assassination scene was good. Wonder if Umberto's Clam House is still in business?

Latest theory is that Jimmy Hoffa was buried inside a 55 gallon drum in a New Jersey dump, but I think the movie's depiction is more likely to be correct.
 
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Watched it yesterday. Great movie, too bad DeNero has drunk the cool aid. I imagine Gunbroker had 2 zillion inquires for .32 S&W j frames by midnight. I'm familiar with prices on .32 Smiths and Colts or I'd be looking too.
 
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Chuckie Obrien's step son Jack Goldsmith just published a book.

Title is "In the shadow of Hoffa" you might want to read this before coming to any conclusions. I read I hear you paint houses. I lived nearby in July 75. Have always been interested in the case.

Can't wait to read the book.

Jack has been on CSPAN book TV. Great discussion on the book and the "missing person" case.



QUOTE=DWalt;140602326]"Always use a new gun right out of the box"
"A .32 is just right"

The Crazy Joe Gallo assassination scene was good. Wonder if Umberto's Clam House is still in business?

Latest theory is that Jimmy Hoffa was buried inside a 55 gallon drum in a New Jersey dump, but I think the movie's depiction is more likely to be correct.[/QUOTE]
 
Chuckie Obrien's step son Jack Goldsmith just published a book.

Title is "In the shadow of Hoffa" you might want to read this before coming to any conclusions. I read I hear you paint houses. I lived nearby in July 75. Have always been interested in the case.

Can't wait to read the book.

Great book. And given Goldsmith’s legal credentials, likely the last and best guess we may get on what happened to Hoffa.

In case you don’t know, Goldsmith, now a law professor at Harvard, was Assistant Attorney General and head of the Office of Legal Counsel in the first G.W. Bush term.

It’s unintentionally funny when he describes his interview with Ashcroft and others before being offered the top job and they ask him the usual question “Is there anything we should know in your life that might embarrass the president?” and he has to say “Well, my stepdad was a prime suspect in the disappearance of Jimmy Hoffa ... “. He got the job anyways.

It’s particularly poignant when he describes the DOJ and FBI admitting to him that they’ve known for decades that Chuckie O’Brien could physically not have been there and been involved, but ultimately decline for political reasons to clear him publicly.

Goldsmith and Chuckie had wanted that since they knew that this upcoming movie would once again falsely portray Chuckie’s role.
 
Plan on watching in the next couple weeks during the wife's rehab from knee replacement. Personally not a fan of Deniro's politics but what he gets paid to do he does well.
 
I’ll hold out judgement until I see the movie, but I’m a little bit over trying buy off on these little Hollywood weasels being tough guy mobsters. I grew up around tough guy mobsters and believe me, Dinero, Pesci, and Pacino would not have cut it...

Hey, I get it, it’s just a movie, but they seem a bit played out to me...

I also have an issue with Hollywood glamorizing mobsters. Generally speaking they are/were just scumbags. Narcissistic, violent people that had zero issues with killing someone who got in their way, innocent, or not... They made their money off of other people’s loss, or suffering. But hey, let’s make them look like noble, cool hero’s, right...
 
They don't look so noble and cool in this one. You know that right off when you see DeNero force a couple of German POWs to dig their own grave before he shoots them - multiple times.
 
While I don’t agree with De Niro’s politics I also don’t condone his personal conduct calling POTUS a ********** to the press or playing tough guy saying he’d like to punch Trump in the mouth. The guy may be a good actor but he has no class. I can get along just fine if I never see another of his movies. I WAS a fan.
 
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I’ll hold out judgement until I see the movie, but I’m a little bit over trying buy off on these little Hollywood weasels being tough guy mobsters. I grew up around tough guy mobsters and believe me, Dinero, Pesci, and Pacino would not have cut it...

Well, I think John Wayne wouldn't have lasted five minutes against real Apaches ... ;)

The whole point of great acting is to be who you are not.

Although all three you named, De Niro, Pesci, and Pacino, grew up Italian or Irish-Italian, non-glamorously, in working-class New York City and Jersey, so they likely knew the type, which got them into those roles in the first place.

And as for the portrayal of fictional and real criminals as "heroes" or at least glamorous or sympathetic characters, that's an affliction of our culture we've had to live with for centuries, from medieval Robin Hood to Jesse James, to Bonnie and Clyde, the Godfather and Walter White.
 
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