The Sigma Holy Trinity

[MastuhWaffles]

Well I've started collecting Sigmas and here is what I have so far. The idea is to own one in every different caliber, so far I have the SW40F,9F and SW380. The last gun I want for the collection is an SW357V.

Both the bigger Sigmas are pre AWB, made in 1994.

 

[Ameshawki]

Interesting. Don't see Sigmas turn up very often. I'd be curious how many Smith made, I'm thinking not a huge number.

 

[Echo40]

Very nice. The Sigma 380M and 9M Models are becoming harder to come by these days because apparently Smith & Wesson is so ashamed of them that if you contact them about those particular models, their first course of action is to offer you an upgrade to an M&P Shield/EZ, despite the fact that those are obviously far more expensive and high quality pistols and therefore they're losing on the deal.

So pretty much every 380M or 9M that isn't perpetually entombed within someone's sock drawer or gun safe ultimately has a part break then ends up getting traded off to S&W in exchange for a much nicer pistol.

 

[Miami_JBT]

I like mine and my favorite actually is my pre-ban SW9F. I had the chance to recently purchase a SW380M at a local gun shop for $200. I passed on it simply because while cool and I like collecting odd things. The little .380 wasn't grabbing my attention.

 

[MastuhWaffles]

Very nice. The Sigma 380M and 9M Models are becoming harder to come by these days because apparently Smith & Wesson is so ashamed of them that if you contact them about those particular models, their first course of action is to offer you an upgrade to an M&P Shield/EZ, despite the fact that those are obviously far more expensive and high quality pistols and therefore they're losing on the deal.

So pretty much every 380M or 9M that isn't perpetually entombed within someone's sock drawer or gun safe ultimately has a part break then ends up getting traded off to S&W in exchange for a much nicer pistol.

I saw a 9M for sale in very rough shape, tho I may make an offer because 180 bucks is way too much. My 380M is in great shape and shoots well.

 

[MastuhWaffles]

I like mine and my favorite actually is my pre-ban SW9F. I had the chance to recently purchase a SW380M at a local gun shop for $200. I passed on it simply because while cool and I like collecting odd things. The little .380 wasn't grabbing my attention.

Get it while it's cheap before it becomes a collectors item

 

[Banjo 10-79]

My first center fire semi auto was a Sigma in 40 caliber. Got it cheap from a friend from another agency. Apparently it was part of a batch of semi autos that were being evaluated as duty issue handguns. That agency ended up adopting Sig P220’s n 45 ACP instead . I got it dirt cheap with 3 full capacity mags. I don’t miss it, the trigger was hot garbage although it was reliable.

 

[colt_saa]

The last gun I want for the collection is an SW357V.

With the 357SIGma only 1500 barrels were produced. So less than 1500 pistols were ever assembled and sold. They do not come up often

I sold off both of the spare barrels that I had acquired years ago to folks that wanted them much worse than I did

I still have a pair of the pistols. This one is in pristine shape

I have the rarest SIGMA, the SW40Ti. Smith & Wesson made a single Titanium SIGMA. This pistol is mentioned on page 402 of the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson (4th Edition)

While Titanium knocked a 1/3 of the weight off the firearm, what it would have done to the MSRP made it a non-starter

I have always felt that the SIGMAs filled the role they were designed for, a plain duty gun. Folks often complain about the triggers, but these are not meant to be target pistols. You can improve the trigger if you want

I still keep a SIGMA 40 with me as a driving gun. It has a green Crimson Trace laser mounted as well as night sights (which are now too dim for my eyes)

Interesting. Don't see Sigmas turn up very often. I'd be curious how many Smith made, I'm thinking not a huge number.

Lots more than you think.

MANY, Many tens of thousands were sold to a couple of small National Police agencies in foreign countries (can't recall which ones at the moment). Naturally, these were chambered in 9MM

I also have one of the first 9MM SIGMAs produced. Produce code 120021 were the low serial numbered 9s. Mine, PAB0050, is mentioned on page 399 of the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson (4th Edition). I should probably pull it out and do a photo of that one as well

 

[MastuhWaffles]

With the 357SIGma only 1500 barrels were produced. So less than 1500 pistols were ever assembled and sold. They do not come up often

I sold off both of the spare barrels that I had acquired years ago to folks that wanted them much worse than I did

I still have a pair of the pistols. This one is in pristine shape

I have the rarest SIGMA, the SW40Ti. Smith & Wesson made a single Titanium SIGMA. This pistol is mentioned on page 402 of the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson (4th Edition)

While Titanium knocked a 1/3 of the weight off the firearm, what it would have done to the MSRP made it a non-starter

I have always felt that the SIGMAs filled the role they were designed for, a plain duty gun. Folks often complain about the triggers, but these are not meant to be target pistols. You can improve the trigger if you want

I still keep a SIGMA 40 with me as a driving gun. It has a green Crimson Trace laser mounted as well as night sights (which are now too dim for my eyes)

Lots more than you think.

MANY, Many tens of thousands were sold to a couple of small National Police agencies in foreign countries (can't recall which ones at the moment). Naturally, these were chambered in 9MM

I also have one of the first 9MM SIGMAs produced. Produce code 120021 were the low serial numbered 9s. Mine, PAB0050, is mentioned on page 399 of the Standard Catalog of Smith & Wesson (4th Edition). I should probably pull it out and do a photo of that one as well

Woah that's awesome. I actually keep the 380M as a backup in my car. I really just want the 357V just to continue to collection of stuff in different calibers. I do always pick stuff up if I get a good deal so I may grab another sigma. (Minus this beat up 9M they want 180 bucks for)
I think the triggers are fine, its heavy with a hard break but I kinda like it in a weird way.

 

[Echo40]

I honestly wouldn't recommend using the 380M as a backup on account of them being out of production, known to have a service life of a mere 500 rounds, and as previously mentioned Smith & Wesson seemingly wants to erase them from existence, so if yours ever breaks, then S&W won't repair/replace it, but offer you an exchange. Granted, it will be a more than generous exchange, but it will cost you what is otherwise becoming a rare and possibly collectible piece.

 

[Borderboss]

I didn't know that Sigmas were made in .380 or .357 Sig. That's pretty interesting.

I know people enjoy beating up Sigmas, but I like mine. Yeah, the trigger was lousy until I put in an Apex spring kit, so now it's at least as good as any Glock trigger. The grip angle is outstanding, being the same as a 1911. It's an easy point-and-shoot gun that goes bang every time and feeds whatever I put in the magazines. It's my nightstand gun.

 

[MastuhWaffles]

I honestly wouldn't recommend using the 380M as a backup on account of them being out of production, known to have a service life of a mere 500 rounds, and as previously mentioned Smith & Wesson seemingly wants to erase them from existence, so if yours ever breaks, then S&W won't repair/replace it, but offer you an exchange. Granted, it will be a more than generous exchange, but it will cost you what is otherwise becoming a rare and possibly collectible piece.

I'm buying a newer model 380 of some sort to just leave in my car but I just had that one for the time being.
I needed to disassemble it for a good cleaning and then put it up in my collection.
I did some testing and it functions great.

 

[Bullet Bob]

All gray Sigma (ignore those other things):

 

[MastuhWaffles]

All gray Sigma (ignore those other things):

I saw one of those for sale the gray one but they want too much

 

[Ameshawki]

I have an SD9VE. With an Apex trigger kit it's really a nice pistol. Fits my hand well, points instinctively. Can't say anything bad about it.

 

[Jellyroll BB]

Mine came with a S&W knife. Always thought this was kind of cool.
I do like this pistol, it is the first semi auto pistol I owned.

 

[HatRon56]

I have both the 9mm and 40S&W Sigma's. I figured out how to interchange the uppers to use the same lowers.. The 40S&W upper is only a 9mm upper with the rails inside of the grip removed.That is why the 40S&W mags won't fit in a 9mm lower and the 9mm mags rattle and won't feed right. To make the 9mm mags fit tight inside of the converted 40 cal grip, all you have to do is use some athletic tape on the side of the 9mm mag. I shoot my conversions at the range all the time.

 

[nutsforsmiths]

I bought a Sigma 380 when they came out. I shot it a couple times without any problems, but did sell it off not long after purchasing. I have to.say it was the worst S&W I've ever owned. And one of the worst semi-autos in general I've ever owned.

 

[medic15al]

Back in 1998 I bought a 9m for pocket carry everyday. As a Paramedic I did a second job as armed security in Birmingham. The 9m was my BUG to my .357 Magnum or 9mm Taurus 92. Loaded with 9BPLE I fired one mag for POA/POI and just fired ball for practice. Prob 2500 rounds total over the years. Kept it clean and lubed and had no malfunctions.

 

[dsk]

Very nice. The Sigma 380M and 9M Models are becoming harder to come by these days because apparently Smith & Wesson is so ashamed of them that if you contact them about those particular models, their first course of action is to offer you an upgrade to an M&P Shield/EZ, despite the fact that those are obviously far more expensive and high quality pistols and therefore they're losing on the deal.

So pretty much every 380M or 9M that isn't perpetually entombed within someone's sock drawer or gun safe ultimately has a part break then ends up getting traded off to S&W in exchange for a much nicer pistol.

The reason why you see so few .380 Sigmas is because they were literally disposable. That's why S&W is so ashamed of them. They have a very short service life and begin falling apart after less than a couple thousand rounds. The ones still kicking around were indeed left in sock drawers and gun safe for most of their lives.