The truth about the M&P 10mm..

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Are they really malfunctioning as much as I hear? I got to handle an M&P 10mm Comp the other day and I like so much better than the Glock 20. However, there seems to be all sorts of caterwauling about these pistols malfunctioning,,,is this real thing or just people b**ching?
 
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Mine was a ***,as was the 45 2.0 I had. Key word is had.

Failure to go into battery.
Light primmer strikes.
Stove pipe's.
Poor accuracy.
10mm would drop mags.

This was with both guns.

I got just about most of the issues worked out but gave up and got rid of them.

My 2.0 9mm, and 40 run like a theif.

Use the 9mm for USPSA.

Bought a couple of Walther's and will be also replacing the 9 and 40 eventually because I like them better all around.

When I get another 10mm it will be in a 1911 platform, or an FN510 or both.
 
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I have an M&P 10mm 4.6" I bought new in March of 2022.
It's fired every type of round I've loaded it with and had NO problem except one.

The ONLY problem I've had is with some older Double Tap Hard Cast 200 grain with the wide front tip.
With these older Double Tap Hard Cast 200 grain, it either jams or ejects the magazine.
I suspect the wide front tip of the bullet is hitting the magazine release
 
Honestly, I love my M&P 40 S&Ws (all 1.0s) but just couldn't disregard the many horror tales about the M&P 10...

Cheers!

P.S.The XDM Elite has been excellent beyond my wildest expectations! Their 45acp Elite Compact quashed any interest in either a Shield or an M&P in that caliber as well. And I'm a big fan of S&W!
 
My M&P 10MM PC works fine and accurate. Note I'm running a galloway precision 24lb guide rod. Interesting on a whim I tried a CH Precision machined aluminum optics plate for my holosun vs. the stock plastic adapter and had noticeable improvement in groupings.

For those looking at a 1911 platform, I picked up a Tisas Nightstalker SF in 10mm and extremely impressed w/ its accuracy and quality. Downside is it's heavier and doesn't hold as many rounds as the M&P. Also can't find a kydex chest rig to fit it yet, but hopefully soon.
 
I too had problems with jamming, excessive ejection distances, and firing pin swiping on my 4.6" model. like mentioned above i purchased a galloway precision guide rod and nearly all problems were mitigated except for the firing pin swiping on the primers it lessened but is still there somewhat.

Most of the problems I was having showed up when using the true 10 mm loadings from Underwood, Buffalo Bore, and others with high velocitiy rounds and heavy bullets, especially home loads : ).

One thing still causes me problems... with home loads, and the Underwood offerings my trigger finger gets hit something awful! Hurts like the dickens after a few rounds and it's not from hitting the knuckle on the trigger guard, it's on the finger pad... really stings. Maybe it's that new fangled safety trigger thingy? Oh well.
 
The horror stories I read about the M&P and Sig Xten made me shy away from both for a while. Also I read one M&P owner having horrible CS from S&W that really turned me away. I ended up buying an Xten Comp and it’s been great so far. I have no regrets but if I had ended up buying the M&P I would have saved a few hundred bucks….
 
I believe the "problems" with M&P 2.0 10mm pistols arose when they were first introduced - in early 2022. Most reported problems with the 4"-barrel models; a few also reported problems with their 4.6"-barrel models. And some, like me, were frustrated by the shortage of S&W magazines for their 10mm pistols. S&W has since built enough magazines to eliminate that shortage. And owners resolved their FTF/FTE issues by replacing the recoil springs. Others identified fixes for defective magazines (I don't recall what those fixes were). There are several threads in this forum where members discuss these issues and their resolutions/fixes.

A former business partner sits on S&W's board of directors. Early in 2023 I called him and asked about reported FTF/FTE problems and magazine shortages with the S&W M&P 2.0 10mm pistols, and S&W's response. He mentioned S&W's issues (1) related to its relocation and (2) arising from the COVID work slowdown. He told me that S&W tweaked the magazine design and changed the recoil springs in the last half of 2022. Those fixes likely began hitting the retailers' shelves early in 2023. That jives with the comments I've read in this forum. Generally, I suspect S&W launched the M&P 2.0 10mm a bit too soon - before it had identified and sorted those problems.

I bought a 4" barrel 2.0 in April 2023. I've had zero problems with it. It is a reliable shooter. And magazines are readily available.
 
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oworthsr said:
I believe the "problems" with M&P 2.0 10mm pistols arose when they were first introduced - in early 2022. Most reported problems with the 4"-barrel models; a few also reported problems with their 4.6"-barrel models. And some, like me, were frustrated by the shortage of S&W magazines for their 10mm pistols. S&W has since built enough magazines to eliminate that shortage. And owners resolved their FTF/FTE issues by replacing the recoil springs. Others identified fixes for defective magazines (I don't recall what those fixes were). There are several threads in this forum where members discuss these issues and their resolutions/fixes.

A former business partner sits on S&W's board of directors. Early in 2023 I called him and asked about reported FTF/FTE problems and magazine shortages with the S&W M&P 2.0 10mm pistols, and S&W's response. He mentioned S&W's issues (1) related to its relocation and (2) arising from the COVID work slowdown. He told me that S&W tweaked the magazine design and changed the recoil springs in the last half of 2022. Those fixes likely began hitting the retailers' shelves early in 2023. That jives with the comments I've read in this forum. Generally, I suspect S&W launched the M&P 2.0 10mm a bit too soon - before it had identified and sorted those problems.

I bought a 4" barrel 2.0 in April 2023. I've had zero problems with it. It is a reliable shooter. And magazines are readily available.
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The m&p 10mm debuted in November, 2021. By then all the internet shills had them in hand and were praising them.

I bought mine in Sept. of 2022.

Springer precision 22lb recoil spring and stronger mag springs got mine running again, but it still sucked in the accuracy department, and then came the light primer strikes. Put a Glock 6lb striker spring in it, and it seemed to go away but I didn't shoot it much longer after that.

Glad it's gone.

It was just like buying a boat for me, where the best days are the day you buy it and the day you sell it.

I'm not buying the COVID or the moving excuse though.

Everyone uses that one still. It's getting old.

Anyways if you have a good one, that's outstanding!

Seems like most are having good luck with them vs the ones with issues.

That's the problem with the Internet sometimes is that you're going to get the majority of the problems being posted in the forms, and the people that are having good luck with them don't really mention it unless there's a negative post about them.

For me I'm done with S&W after my bad 10mm and 45 experience's, but that's just me. Doesn't mean I think everyone should not go with them.

I'm not going to be the you shouldn't like what I don't like guy like most here are. Just stating my experience.
 
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Critch: You are correct, there have been a few Threads complaining about the M&P 10mm 2.0 having failure-to-feed and magazine drop issues. But like oworthsr says, those issues were mostly with the early 4" bbl. versions and S&W had not properly debugged before releasing. I purchased my 10mm 2.0 (4.6" bbl.) in Sept 2022, and have had zero mechanical issues after about 1000 rounds. However, I do not shoot hard cast bullets so I cannot weigh in on shooting them. I have not changed springs or guide rods or done any type of tweaking. The only issue I did have was that the S&W-supplied plastic Red Dot adapter plate worked loose after a couple of hundred rounds, so I replaced it with a C&H metal plate. I've been monitoring the Forum and online blogs, and the S&W 10mm issues seem to have mostly disappeared. Hopefully S&W received enough complaints from consumers that they successfully resolved the problems. I use this pistol for home defense and when traveling, and have complete confidence in its performance and dependability. I would not hesitate to recommend these pistols to potential buyers.
 

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If you like the way it feels in your hand I would say go for it. I've had my 4.6" nts model for around 2 years, and I have had no malfunctions. I've put everything from federal range fodder up to Underwood 220gr hard cast through it with nothing but fun along the way.

That said, springfield is a good choice for any handgun they offer. I've never shot one and been disappointed(have shot xdm in 9, 40, 45/echelon/xds45).
 
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Apparently his 10mm M&P worked when needed …. (see attached)
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You beat me to it! I was going to say that if the M&P 10mm can handle a charging Kodiak bear up close, it will certainly work against 2-legged critters as well. This guy obviously had confidence in his pistol!
 
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