The USS England (DE 635)

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As a Sonarman, this record will never be broken I think....

USS England (DE-635), a Buckley-class destroyer escort of the United States Navy, was named in honor of Ensign John C. England (1920–1941), who was killed in action aboard the battleship Oklahoma during the Japanese attack on Pearl Harbor on 7 December 1941. Her sinking of six Japanese submarines in twelve days is a feat unparalleled in the history of antisubmarine warfare.

England was launched on 26 September 1943 at the Bethlehem Shipbuilding Corporation shipyard in San Francisco, California, sponsored by Mrs. H. B. England, mother of Ensign England; and commissioned on 10 December 1943, with Commander W. B. Pendleton in command.

England arrived at Espiritu Santo on 12 March 1944 from San Francisco, Pearl Harbor, Funafuti, and Guadalcanal. She took up escort duty between Espiritu Santo and Guadalcanal, occasionally sailing to Nouméa, and once to the Marshalls.

Anti-submarine record:

I-16
United States Pacific Fleet Military intelligence decoded a 13 May 1944 message from Japanese submarine I-16 including a scheduled delivery of rice for Japanese troops at Buin on the southern tip of Bougainville Island. England, George (DE-697) and Raby (DE-698) were ordered to intercept I-16. England detected I-16 during calm, sunny weather on the early afternoon of 18 May 1944. The first Hedgehog mortar attack at 1341 was a miss. A second Hedgehog attack scored one hit at a depth of 130 feet (40 m). A third Hedgehog attack at 1410 missed because depth was assumed to be 200 feet (61 m) rather than the 325 feet (99 m) revealed by the fathometer following the attack. I-16 outmaneuvered a fourth Hedgehog attack. The fifth Hedgehog attack at 1433 scored four to six detonations and was followed by a large underwater explosion which lifted Englands fantail and knocked men off their feet. Debris began floating to the surface twenty minutes later. The following day, a three by six-mile (5 by 10-kilometer) oil slick marked the location on the calm surface of the Pacific.

RO-106
A 20 May 1944 message was decoded revealing Japanese plans for a submarine trap north of the Admiralty Islands to intercept an anticipated movement of United States aircraft carriers. RO-104, RO-105, RO-106, RO-108, RO-109, RO-112, and RO-116 of the Japanese seventh submarine squadron formed a patrol line across a route Admiral Halsey had used twice before. George detected RO-106 on radar at 0350 on 22 May, saw the submarine dive when located by searchlight, and missed with a Hedgehog attack at 0415. England regained contact at 0425, missed with one Hedgehog attack, and scored at least three detonations on a second attack at 0501. A large underwater explosion was detected as England prepared to conduct a third attack, and a heavy oil slick with debris was evident after sunrise.

RO-104

The three destroyer escorts formed a search line with a scouting interval of 16,000 yards during hours of darkness. Raby detected RO-104 on radar at 0600 on 23 May, made sonar contact at 0610, and missed with four Hedgehog attacks beginning at 0617. George missed with a Hedgehog attack at 0717. George then missed with four more Hedgehog attacks between 0730 and 0810. England then missed with a first Hedgehog attack and scored an estimated ten or twelve detonations on a second Hedgehog attack at 0834. The hits were followed by noises of the submarine breaking up and a large underwater explosion three minutes later. Debris and oil appeared on the surface at 1045.

RO-116

George detected RO-116 on radar at 0120 24 May. England made sonar contact at 0150, and scored three to five detonations on the first Hedgehog attack at 0214. Breaking-up noises were not followed by the major explosions noted on earlier sinkings. A small quantity of oil and debris was evident after sunrise at 0702 and the oil slick had expanded to cover several square miles the following day.

RO-108

A hunter-killer group consisting of the escort carrier Hoggatt Bay (CVE-75) with destroyers Hazelwood (DD-531), Heermann (DD-532), Hoel (DD-533), and McCord (DD-534) arrived on 26 May so the three destroyer escorts could leave to refuel and rearm. The destroyer escorts maintained their search formation en route to Manus. Raby detected RO-108 on radar at 2303 26 May. England made radar contact at 2304, sonar contact at 2318, and scored four to six detonations with the first Hedgehog attack. There was no major explosion following the breaking-up noises, but a fountain of oil was observed rising to the surface at dawn.

RO-105

The three destroyer escorts reached Manus at 1500 on 27 May. After taking on fuel, provisions, and ammunition, they sailed at 1800 28 May with Spangler (DE-696) to rejoin the search. Hazelwood detected RO-105 on RADAR at 0156 on 30 May and missed with a depth charge attack. George and Raby joined Hazelwood and made sixteen Hedgehog and depth charge attacks over a period of 25 hours. RO-105 came up for air at 0310 on 31 May and was immediately detected by George and Raby. RO-105 stayed directly between the two destroyer escorts for five minutes before submerging so neither Raby nor George could fire without endangering the other. Sequential Hedgehog attacks were then made by Raby, George, Raby, and Spangler. All missed. Division Commander Hains then radioed, "Oh, hell. Go ahead, England." England then scored six to ten detonations in a Hedgehog attack at 0736. A major explosion followed at 0741 and a fountain of oil and debris appeared on the surface.

This anti-submarine warfare performance was never matched in World War II, and won for England a Presidential Unit Citation, and the assurance from the Chief of Naval Operations, Admiral E. J. King, "There'll always be an England in the United States Navy." His pledge was fulfilled on 6 October 1960, when DLG-22 was assigned the name England.


The only thing I got to do that was close was be on a DD that was in the task force that made a USSR sub surface near Cuba during the naval blockcade in 1962.
The admiral just sent a message to the sub, "Bang, your dead!"
 
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I read about the USS England years ago. All by herself, she rolled up the Japanese scouting line. Unparalleled! IIRC, she was heavily damaged by a kamikaze off Okinawa.

The Japanese subs weren't the threat to merchant trade the German boats were. When my Dad sailed to Australia, his ship sailed alone, not in convoy as he did on the North Atlantic. Strangely enough, the Japanese subs did have some success attacking warships (Yorktown, Wasp, North Carolina, Indianapolis).

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The Japanese subs weren't the threat to merchant trade the German boats were. When my Dad sailed to Australia, his ship sailed alone, not in convoy as he did on the North Atlantic. Strangely enough, the Japanese subs did have some success attacking warships (Yorktown, Wasp, North Carolina, Indianapolis).

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I suspect you will find that knocking off merchant ships did not fit well with the Bushido Code.

Speaking of codes, it is evident that the breaking of Japanese naval codes played a pivotal role in those engagements. The Battle of Midway could have been way uglier without the spooks doing their stuff.
 
BTW, they have it wrong as far as hedgehogs being used.
They were call mouse traps that were mounted on a gun mount and the mount had to be trained to the target.
Reason ahead thrown weapons were preferred was that MK 6 depth charges had to be set to a depth to explode.
MK 9 depth charges had a type of sonar that after the range was close and then opened, they went off. No opening of range, no explosion.
Depth charges that went off screwed up our sonar bad and you would loose contact on the sub.
The movie they showed us in Sonar school in Key West was "The Enemy Below". The instructor told us "You think your hot shot sonarman, well this is closer to the truth!"
 
BTW, they have it wrong as far as hedgehogs being used.
They were call mouse traps that were mounted on a gun mount and the mount had to be trained to the target.
Reason ahead thrown weapons were preferred was that MK 6 depth charges had to be set to a depth to explode.
MK 9 depth charges had a type of sonar that after the range was close and then opened, they went off. No opening of range, no explosion.
Depth charges that went off screwed up our sonar bad and you would loose contact on the sub.
The movie they showed us in Sonar school in Key West was "The Enemy Below". The instructor told us "You think your hot shot sonarman, well this is closer to the truth!"

All my rooting around the Web says the Buckley class carried a Hedgehog. It appears the rocket powered Mousetraps were used on lighter classes that could not take the recoil of a Hedgehog. The Hedgehog developed major recoil due to its mortar style launch.
 
Hedgehog launchers were on port and starboard of the ship I was on.
When tilled the 24 rockets would distort the circle to oval.
7.2" rockets needed a mount that was subject to weather even with covers over the launchers.
The United States produced a rocket version of Hedgehog called Mousetrap, then Weapon Alpha as a replacement for both. Still, Hedgehog remained in service with the United States Navy into the Cold War until both Hedgehog and the less satisfactory Weapon Alpha were replaced by ASROC.[
They only exploded on contact, no depth set for that.
No DE's I know of had the same launchers and I was on DE 369, a advanced DE to combat German subs.
So, some of the statements are false.
But what do I know, only put in 32 years as a sonarman......
 
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I served on the USS Delong DE684 from 1952-1955 as an FT2 and we called them Hedgehogs and Ashcans for the rollers off the fantail. BTW, what's a Mousetrap?
 
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My father served on the USS Fessenden in both the Atlantic and Pacific theaters. He participated in this action: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-1062

Funny coincidence:
Just last night, my daughter (the newly minted marine) was sitting at the airport in Atlanta, talking to a WWII US Navy veteran. When she named her grandfathers ship, he immediately said, " Oh, the hunter killer!". We were both amazed that she had met someone who remembered such an obscure event from the distant past.
 
I served on the USS Delong DE684 from 1952-1955 as an FT2 and we called them Hedgehogs and Ashcans for the rollers off the stern. BTW, what's a Mousetrap?

Some info NOT from Wikipedia on ASW weapons.

USA ASW Weapons

Surface-Launched 7.2-Inch Rockets

I suspect that there was great variation in the fit to individual ships and/or much misidentification of the equipment fitted by observers at later dates.
 
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Some deluded soul decided that the USCG Hamilton class cutters should have hedgehogs along with our two torpedo launchers. Now, these cutters were built in the late 60s, so hedgehogs didn't make much sense. We were in the era of standoff weapons, if you got close enough to a fast attack to use either hedgehogs or deck-launched torpedos, you were probably already sunk.

We did jump a non-US (Soviet ?) fast attack watching our ASW exercises outside Gitmo in the early 70s. We got good solid sonar contact on a sub at the edge of the exercise area, where none were supposed to be. The exercise was scrapped and we prosecuted with a helo and chased it ourselves. Once they figured they were found, they left the area at a very high rate of speed. It made an interesting NC2 plot ! He was really moving :)
 
"I served on the USS Delong DE684 from 1952-1955 as an FT2."

I was on the Delong after the T. Parker, DE 369 died in the Atlantic near FL in 1967.
An interesting trip to say the least for as long as it lasted on one boiler.

Delong was in the Bronx, N.Y. then and I made Chief and Senior Chief while aboard.
 
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"I served on the USS Delong DE684 from 1952-1955 as an FT2."

I was on the Delong after the T. Parker, DE 369 died in the Atlantic near FL in 1967.
An interesting trip to say the least for as long as it lasted on one boiler.

Delong was in the Bronx, N.Y. then and I made Chief and Senior Chief while aboard.

Great, I still have a few fond memories of life on board. I wasn't in long enough to make it past FT2. My son stayed in for 6 and was a Sonarman 2nd, but got out, he should have stayed.
 
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The advantage of Hedgehog was that the attacking ship could maintain sonar contact right up to the moment of shooting. That wasn't possible with depth charges, whether launched from K guns, Y guns, or rolled off the fantail.

USS England didn't get all of the Japanese sub line. There were two more. But the Pacific had a hard boundary line of control between Gen. MacArther and ADM Nimitz and the other two subs were in MacArthur's area. The ships were forbidden to cross the line.

The exploits of the England were cause for the name to be carried over to another ship, DLG/CG-22.

A long time ago, Proceedings published an account of the twelve days of the USS England, as written by the XO of the ship. It made for every interesting reading.
 
Fascinating

Great history leason. These systems helped turn tne tide of war (thats a play on words)-another interesting dvelopment was proximity fusing-for anti aircraft weapons.
 
The VT fuze was devastating during the Battle of the Bulge. It removed the need for observation for timed fusing.

The Battle of Okinawa might have been lost without the VT fuze.
 
The VT fuze was devastating during the Battle of the Bulge. It removed the need for observation for timed fusing.

The Battle of Okinawa might have been lost without the VT fuze.

You may not know how difficult it was to shoot timed fused projectiles so they would explode at the right height above ground. I was trained in the field artillery, and it took a lot of fussy work, much time, and probably several trial shots before the right fuse setting could be found. By that time the target would probably have figured out he was being shot at and had departed the area. VT changed that completely.
 
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