This is utter nonsense

[LVSteve]

So, a fleeing murder subject from Kern County CA does a runner and eventually stops on the shoulder of Northbound I-15 just South of the state line with Nevada. A confrontation with a member of CHP ensues and the suspect ends up dead. This was at about 1900 last night, Wednesday.

The road was finally reopened at 1500 today. One cop, one perp, two guns, max. That is simply ridiculous. Worse, somehow the likelihood of such a protracted was not grasped to the point that it is alleged that some folk spent the overnight hours behind the incident until some were eventually being told to back track South on the Northbound to reach one of detours. Oh, and the roads for the detours are narrow, two lane affairs with poor maintenance that cut across the Mohave Preserve which is open range covered in cattle dumb as hammers. According to some Twitter posts, many of those on the detours were looking to out dumb the cattle.

This is twice inside a month that the authorities in San Bernardino and/or CHP have failed to make an early decision on closing I-15 at Barstow and getting the traffic diverted. Yes, I know with the distances involved that a fair volume of traffic is going to get trapped. But taking over half a day to get the stranded traffic sorted? That's rank incompetence.

From the LA Times report:

The freeway closure forced some motorists to sit at the roadblock through the night while others were able to take detours.
The CHP’s online traffic log reported that two vehicles ran out of gas on the freeway.
Montgomery Granito of Los Angeles told the Las Vegas Review-Journal that he and his family waited in their vehicle for nearly seven hours at the roadblock from Wednesday evening to Thursday morning before they learned that drivers were being diverted at an exit miles earlier. He said law enforcement never spoke to drivers stuck there and he finally crossed the median Thursday morning to the freeway’s southbound lanes to head back.
He told the newspaper that 30 to 60 vehicles sat at the roadblock all night and many were still there when he left Thursday morning

California and Nevada officers fatally shoot murder suspect - Los Angeles Times

More here:

Northbound I-15 reopens near Primm, stateline following deadly shooting; suspect identified | KLAS - 8 News Now

 

[soFlaNative]

Any fatality esp. police involved is bound to be investigated under a microscope due to today's litigious society. I've seen highways closed around here for most of a day while info was gathered, even if it was off the shoulder.
Pretty sure inter agency comms could be better, we've all seen recent results of a failure to communicate.
Meanwhile, my heart goes out to the LEO's who have to deal with the likes of Monty G. who needed seven hours to figure out a U turn.

 

[pharmer]

I've seen roads closed half a day due to a person following a school bus too closely, hitting the backbumper when the bus dropped anchor. Joe

 

[biku324]

Once a crime scene is screwed up it can't be unscrewed. Imagine the outrage when the state has to pay a dead person's estate a few hundred thousand to a few million due to inadequate investigation.

If you are a policeman and do your job, folks don't like you. If you're a cop and don't do your job, folks don't respect you.

 

[Sgt911]

Op isn't upset about length of closer, he is upset that it appears no alts were provided...…. I think


Read it again...….Sorry OP, dead human....it takes as long as it takes

If two states were involved in that remote area, there's no telling how many folks had to be flown out there to investigate.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

Steve, I feel you pain! The problem is some pin head supervisor didn't do their job of making the road blocks far enough back to make a difference!

On St. Valentine's Day several years ago, a snow and ice storm hit the night before. After a 14 hour day of shoveling sidewalks and clearing parking lots, I got stopped by a weather related road closure, not a big deal, Local Pin Head LEO's were detouring a state highway into a neighborhood with NO EXITS! And the road that you ended up back tracking to, was only 1500 to 2000 feet before the closing! Not even Barney was that dumb, and Andy would never had stood for it!

Ivan

 

[bigwheelzip]

Not a guarantee against that kind of problem, but regular use of the WAZE App might help avoid that kind of problem. I know it's routed me around many road stoppages.

For those who don't know about WAZE, it is a mapping program that can be downloaded and used for free. It supplements it's maps with data that is fed back to it in real-time by it's users, and then modifies your directions to avoid problems.

Another good feature is that it warns you of construction, road hazards, police activity, speed cameras, and red light cameras.

 

[LVSteve]

Meanwhile, my heart goes out to the LEO's who have to deal with the likes of Monty G. who needed seven hours to figure out a U turn.

I don't know how it works in your state, but freeway U-turns are a no-no out here. They are a big no-no when there is no actual break in the median, which is the case for many a mile on I-15. Even then, the breaks are marked "Authorized vehicles only", which is not Monty G or the rest of Joseph T Public.

Monty G was fortunate enough to be driving a vehicle that could negotiate the dirt median and its shallow ditch. Let's try this in a loaded 18-wheeler with the southbound traffic still running at 70 mph. Oh, I should also mention that I-15 at this point is a bare two-lanes in each direction with a minimal right shoulder and no left shoulder by the median whatsoever.

 

[LVSteve]

Once a crime scene is screwed up it can't be unscrewed. Imagine the outrage when the state has to pay a dead person's estate a few hundred thousand to a few million due to inadequate investigation.

If you are a policeman and do your job, folks don't like you. If you're a cop and don't do your job, folks don't respect you.

I fully appreciate the preservation of the scene. But 18 hours? Really?

When the guy up the street blew away his grandmother in the street at ~1700 one evening, the investigation was done and dusted with the street open by 0100. I was back in my house by foot at 2245.

 

[LVSteve]

Op isn't upset about length of closer, he is upset that it appears no alts were provided...…. I think


Read it again...….Sorry OP, dead human....it takes as long as it takes

If two states were involved in that remote area, there's no telling how many folks had to be flown out there to investigate.

Once you have control of I-15 and the traffic diverted to the 40 at Barstow, it's not that big a deal for CSI to drive up to the scene, just boring. I'd not be too surprised if a good number of the qualified folk were "busy" when the call for volunteers went out.

It's a fairly open secret that the state of California, and especially San Bernardino County would totally depopulate the are North and East of Barstow up to the NV border and out Needles on I-40. This incident shows why.

 

[biku324]

I fully appreciate the preservation of the scene. But 18 hours? Really?

When the guy up the street blew away his grandmother in the street at ~1700 one evening, the investigation was done and dusted with the street open by 0100. I was back in my house by foot at 2245.

Yes. The last officer-involved shooting I was involved with on I-10 was nearly 30 hours, but we had the luxury of a frontage road to divert traffic.

 

[vytoland]

So, a fleeing murder subject from Kern County CA does a runner and eventually stops on the shoulder of Northbound I-15 just South of the state line with Nevada. A confrontation with a member of NHP ensues and the suspect ends up dead. [/url]

too much time cleaning up trash.......put the garbage inna bag, leave it on the side of the road.......the garbage truck can pick it up later.....move on to the next one.....