Took out the 19 today

[Snapping Twig]

Hit the range with my daughter's boyfriend. He's from Ireland and until he met me, he had only seen pictures of firearms.

This is our second range trip and I have to say, he's shooting really well!

I'm trying to give him the Jeff Cooper way of doing things and he's taking to it like a duck to water.

Bought this 19-4 a couple years ago, shot it once to make sure it functioned and that was it - until today.

We also had a Sig P-210 and a DW CBOB 1911.

The 19 has one of the smoothest double actions I have ever experienced. At 10 yards shooting DA, I was able to produce a silver dollar size group.

He warmed up with a few cylinders of 38Spl., and then we talked about focusing on the front sight, taking up the slack on the trigger, etc., and he went on to punch the target where he wanted to.

He liked the magnums and tamed them pretty well ultimately.

Today's other players.

Sig P-210

DW CBOB

 

[deyomatic]

That Sig is beautiful. Now you need to visit Ireland.

 

[Tom_R]

A Smith and Wesson, a Dan Wesson and a Sig.

You and I have VERY similar tastes in firearms.

I love that Model 19.

Are those Kurac grips on it?

 

[Snapping Twig]

Indeed they are. French walnut burl.

John and Jennifer are masters at their craft.

ETA

I told him that next time we'll concentrate on things 44 - Spl & magnum.

I'm thinking a 696ND, 4" 624ND, 4" 629-2 Mountain revolver and perhapsa 6.5" 29-2 "S" S/N shipped in 67. Dirty Harry's piece. I have a copy of that movie and he watched it with me for the first time. Pretty sure he's on board for it.

 

[jimmyj]

Hi:
I also have a S&W Model 19-4 6".
Have you fired .357 158 grain JSP ammo I it ?
If so, opinions ?

Thanks,
Jimmy

 

[bananaman]

Hit the range with my daughter's boyfriend. He's from Ireland and until he met me, he had only seen pictures of firearms.

This is our second range trip and I have to say, he's shooting really well!

I'm trying to give him the Jeff Cooper way of doing things and he's taking to it like a duck to water.

Bought this 19-4 a couple years ago, shot it once to make sure it functioned and that was it - until today.

We also had a Sig P-210 and a DW CBOB 1911.

The 19 has one of the smoothest double actions I have ever experienced. At 10 yards shooting DA, I was able to produce a silver dollar size group.

He warmed up with a few cylinders of 38Spl., and then we talked about focusing on the front sight, taking up the slack on the trigger, etc., and he went on to punch the target where he wanted to.

He liked the magnums and tamed them pretty well ultimately.

Today's other players.

Sig P-210

DW CBOB

Congratulations! Very nice guns you have there! Enjoy them! Bob

 

[Snapping Twig]

Hi:
I also have a S&W Model 19-4 6".
Have you fired .357 158 grain JSP ammo I it ?
If so, opinions ?

Thanks,
Jimmy

Unfortunately not. I have shot two different Lyman cast bullets, 358429 and 358160 which are 170g and 160g.

I cast all my own except for 9mm and the bolt rifles.

 

[jack the toad]

Nice guns and cool story, thanks for sharing with us and the Irish lad. Sounds like he's on his way to becoming a shooter. I try to introduce new shooters to the sport every chance I get. They're the future.

 

[75Vette]

With that being his first time shooting, which did he like/shoot the best?? The revolver or the semis?

 

[Wprovence]

Great story. Thanks for sharing. How do you like your DW 1911??


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[H Richard]

I had the pleasure of shooting a P210 a couple years ago when visiting in Zurich. They are one fine handgun.

 

[rwt1405]

Nice story!

Even nicer handguns!

Thanks for sharing!

 

[Texas Star]

I met an Irish immigrant at the range a few years ago, and he said that one reason why he moved here was to own guns. There were other freedom issues, but that was a strong concern.


I've recently watched some videos on YouTube made by foreign exchange students in the USA. Several showed the guests of host families being taken to shoot. A few even got to hunt various game. They seemed pleased and included that in their videos, meant to show others thinking of becoming exchange students why they should study in the USA. I think that's a positive message to Euros and New Zealanders, etc. about American gun ownership.

 

[Texas Star]

Hi:
I also have a S&W Model 19-4 6".
Have you fired .357 158 grain JSP ammo I it ?
If so, opinions ?

Thanks,
Jimmy

Jimmy-


I don't recall the dash numbers, but have owned both four and six-inch barreled M-19's in which I shot quite a bit of both Federal and Remington 158 grain JSP ammo.


No problems, and it was very accurate. I think it would probably work okay on deer, but for smaller ones, a JHP might be a better choice.


The Federal PR man told me that their 158 grain Hydra-Shok is a good deer load in a .357. It should also fare well on African antelope up to Impala size.


I think JSP would do best on alligators, but the better JHP loads work fine if you hit them in the vital big head scale.
Professional gator hunters hit them there effectively even with .22's. Or with bang sticks, some in .357, I think.

If you're thinking primarily of human foes, hollowpoints are usually preferable, as you want violent expansion coupled with ample penetration. The JSP is designed more for penetration. It would be a better choice on bear or for wild pigs. Or on felons in very cold weather, where the bullet has to penetrate a heavy parka and other winter clothing.


I've been watching a lot of lion videos and wondering about the best .357 load if a lion gets one down in a country where the visitor can carry a handgun. I think the only such land may be South Africa. A 158 grain JSP might do well in that role.


Did I cover the bases well enough to answer your question?

 

[jimmyj]

.357 6"

Jimmy-


I don't recall the dash numbers, but have owned both four and six-inch barreled M-19's in which I shot quite a bit of both Federal and Remington 158 grain JSP ammo.


No problems, and it was very accurate. I think it would probably work okay on deer, but for smaller ones, a JHP might be a better choice.


The Federal PR man told me that their 158 grain Hydra-Shok is a good deer load in a .357. It should also fare well on African antelope up to Impala size.


I think JSP would do best on alligators, but the better JHP loads work fine if you hit them in the vital big head scale.
Professional gator hunters hit them there effectively even with .22's. Or with bang sticks, some in .357, I think.

If you're thinking primarily of human foes, hollowpoints are usually preferable, as you want violent expansion coupled with ample penetration. The JSP is designed more for penetration. It would be a better choice on bear or for wild pigs. Or on felons in very cold weather, where the bullet has to penetrate a heavy parka and other winter clothing.


I've been watching a lot of lion videos and wondering about the best .357 load if a lion gets one down in a country where the visitor can carry a handgun. I think the only such land may be South Africa. A 158 grain JSP might do well in that role.


Did I cover the bases well enough to answer your question?

Thank you for the information. You answered my question very well.
Jimmy