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scooter123
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I carried a Sig P239 for many years and the 10 lbs. DA trigger pull didn't bother me at all. Also didn't have any issues with the 4.5 lbs. weight in single action. However I did purchase my 67-1 specifically to train with a DA trigger and fell in love with revolvers.
Recently I picked up a TZ75 (an Italian made licensed copy of the CZ75). The DA trigger pull on this pistol is a whopping 14 lbs., most likely due to a design with poor leverage on the hammer. This trigger weight is a problem for me with my Left Hand. For those who think this should not be an issue, wait until you are 68 years old and dealing with Arthritis and Trigger Finger in the left hand and middle finger. While I can shoot pull this trigger I have no confidence in the accuracy with my left hand in double action. As I am primarily Right Handed it's not a huge concern but it does point out that Trigger Weight isn't just a concern about negligent discharges, for some of us it's a matter of not being able to use the gun well in a Defense situation.
Recently I picked up a TZ75 (an Italian made licensed copy of the CZ75). The DA trigger pull on this pistol is a whopping 14 lbs., most likely due to a design with poor leverage on the hammer. This trigger weight is a problem for me with my Left Hand. For those who think this should not be an issue, wait until you are 68 years old and dealing with Arthritis and Trigger Finger in the left hand and middle finger. While I can shoot pull this trigger I have no confidence in the accuracy with my left hand in double action. As I am primarily Right Handed it's not a huge concern but it does point out that Trigger Weight isn't just a concern about negligent discharges, for some of us it's a matter of not being able to use the gun well in a Defense situation.
scooter123
I am asking about a CZ PCR that I am thinking of adding a Cajun gun works pro package that would bring the DA to around 8lbs. I have already changed the main spring to 13 lbs and I believe the pull is at 9lbs now. Its not the pound difference I am chasing its getting rid of the creep and take up. I want a trigger that breaks like glass.
Yes this is my EDC....
I am asking about a CZ PCR that I am thinking of adding a Cajun gun works pro package that would bring the DA to around 8lbs. I have already changed the main spring to 13 lbs and I believe the pull is at 9lbs now. Its not the pound difference I am chasing its getting rid of the creep and take up. I want a trigger that breaks like glass.
Yes this is my EDC....
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I run the cajun gun works ultra light package in my rami,pcr,p01,sp01,and 97. I carry all of them without issue or fear.
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It can be legally dangerous to take a trigger pull down below manuf. suggested specs. Smoothing out a trigger is not an issue. Making it lighter runs the risk of some psycho attorney or DA screaming to a jury about you deliberately carrying a "hair-trigger" gun.
My experience as a USPSA CRO has led me to the conclusion that there is no fixed rule, its a matter of shooter training and the design of the individual gun/modification. What scares me is a shooter that can't keep his booger hook off the bang switch until he is on target, regardless whether the trigger pull is 15# or 2#. Can you say "negligent discharge"?
Alk8944
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This is exactly why there are so many double-action only pistols and revolvers on the market, and why many police departments mandate that only DAO handguns are approved for its officers for both on-duty and off-duty carry.
Not everyone has the same finger strength.
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Most, if not all the TDA (DA/SA) semis only specify the minimum SA trigger weight. You want to make sure you don't go below that on a carry gun. I personally "had issues" with shot placement during our service pistol trials with guns that had a major difference between DA and SA trigger weights. That's probably something that much practice could cure, I decided I didn't want to bother with the issue. Apparently, many of the other testers felt likewise.
OP in your situation, I'd have the action smoothed and leave the springs alone-so long as the SA is still within specs-and see what the results are. Do try to find out what the SA factory spec is for your gun. Most of the S&W TDAs had 4.5 lb minimums. I personally found something a wee bit heavier worked better for me, around 5.5 IIRC.
OP in your situation, I'd have the action smoothed and leave the springs alone-so long as the SA is still within specs-and see what the results are. Do try to find out what the SA factory spec is for your gun. Most of the S&W TDAs had 4.5 lb minimums. I personally found something a wee bit heavier worked better for me, around 5.5 IIRC.
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Pisgah
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If you are using proper trigger technique, the pull weight really shouldn't be much of a factor until it reaches the point where you need 2 fingers to pull it. More problematic than weight is lack of smoothness. I can hit all day with a SMOOTH 15# DA pull or a crisp 8# SA, but if it's rough or "snaggy", all bets are off. With rare exception, if I do any trigger work it will be to smooth, not lighten.
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I have a SIG P220 (.45 ACP) with a DAK (double-action only) trigger, and a 6.5 lb pull. It is perfect for self-defense carry, even if it would win a target match - long, very smooth, clean break. I keep my thumb on the hammer when holstering, in case the trigger would catch on a shirttail or something.
Mike_Fontenot
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As to SA, as light as I can make it. The limit is usually determined by having enough of a trigger-return spring to return the trigger to its forward position after shooting. I put in the lightest return spring I could buy, and it functioned OK. It gives me about a 3 lb pull, which for some reason FEELS lighter than the pull on my 10mm 1911 (2-1/2 lbs).
As to DA, I don't care. I shoot strictly SA, unless a bad guy is only a couple of feet away, and then I don't care about trigger pull weight.
