Tula, Aguila, etc
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We handload for everything in the inventory - but - I used to scour the local big-boxes for case lots of cheap 9mm for a very specific purpose. My son has a Hi-Point 9mm semi-auto carbine and likes to "walk around" the ranch with it. I really don't want to pick up brass all over the place and my son did not seem to want to do so with any appreciable diligence. I handed him boxes of, usually, TulAmmo, steel-cased Russian 115 grain stuff, and didn't care where the empties went. They, eventually, all rust away. Getting pretty hard to find with the recent ban and TulAmmo hasn't been "cheap" for a while now. Luckily the lad is getting to be more responsible and hunts his empties with a bit more fervor these days. The TulAmmo has served us well in this capacity as that Hi-Point is no picky eater. I've never been tempted to use it in our 9mm handguns.
And BTW; please don't poo-poo the Hi-Point carbine. If you haven't played with one my advice is don't; unless you've room in a safe for one. Fun with a capital "F" and with the red-dot my boy is pretty deadly with it.
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THE PILGRIM
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It just gets stranger.
I just bought a 400 Round Plastic Bottle of coated lead Bullet CCI 22 Ammo.
I just bought a 400 Round Plastic Bottle of coated lead Bullet CCI 22 Ammo.
DWalt
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Regarding Aguila, at one time, and maybe still, they were using the Eleyprime mixture under license from Eley for their primers and also in RF ammunition. Eleyprime supposedly is safer and simpler to handle than the normal Lead Styphnate priming mixture. I don't know what Eleyprime consists of. Does anyone here know what is used to make it?
Fishinfool
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Just a shout out for PPU and S&B. PPU 7.62x51 is the most consistent NATO spec ammo in my battle rifles. S&B 140 grain 6.5 Creedmoor is the most accurate factory ammo in my LR rifle, with SIG 140 a close second at about twice the price.
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Regarding a couple of ammos mentioned here, based on my own experience, and I shoot .22s a lot...
I've used Aguila off and on, mostly off, for about fifteen years. It's primarily been standard velocity; I've had good results accuracy-wise and some not so good. At least ten years ago, I bought a quantity (may have been a case) and had more misfires with it than any .22 ammo I've ever used. Perhaps just a bad lot. I mentioned this to an Aguila rep at a SHOT Show and he offered no explanation that I can recall. The last batch of Aguila SV that I bought a few years ago shot well, but it was noticeably behind CCI SV and a number of other .22 ammos in accuracy. Lot-to-lot uniformity may not be Aguila's strongpoint, but for cheap ammo, it's better than some others.
CCI SV - I've been buying this stuff by the case for a long time. Not the most accurate in every gun, but generally pretty accurate in most rifles and handguns, enough so that I can simplify things by buying one ammo. It functions well in semi-auto handguns where many other ammos won't do this reliably. Accuracy is fairly consistent from batch-to-batch. I've had two misfires with CCI SV over the past twenty years and both of those were within the last couple of years, maybe from a case I purchased six or eight years ago.
Some claim recently manufactured CCI SV doesn't shoot as accurately as older stuff and some misfires have been reported. Those claims may be true, but I can't comment as I haven't fired any of the more recent stuff that I bought in the last three or so years when this ammo was between $200 and $250 per case of 5,000. It's been the best .22 ammo available for my purposes for a long time. I hope it has not become on of the lesser ammunitions.
I've used Aguila off and on, mostly off, for about fifteen years. It's primarily been standard velocity; I've had good results accuracy-wise and some not so good. At least ten years ago, I bought a quantity (may have been a case) and had more misfires with it than any .22 ammo I've ever used. Perhaps just a bad lot. I mentioned this to an Aguila rep at a SHOT Show and he offered no explanation that I can recall. The last batch of Aguila SV that I bought a few years ago shot well, but it was noticeably behind CCI SV and a number of other .22 ammos in accuracy. Lot-to-lot uniformity may not be Aguila's strongpoint, but for cheap ammo, it's better than some others.
CCI SV - I've been buying this stuff by the case for a long time. Not the most accurate in every gun, but generally pretty accurate in most rifles and handguns, enough so that I can simplify things by buying one ammo. It functions well in semi-auto handguns where many other ammos won't do this reliably. Accuracy is fairly consistent from batch-to-batch. I've had two misfires with CCI SV over the past twenty years and both of those were within the last couple of years, maybe from a case I purchased six or eight years ago.
Some claim recently manufactured CCI SV doesn't shoot as accurately as older stuff and some misfires have been reported. Those claims may be true, but I can't comment as I haven't fired any of the more recent stuff that I bought in the last three or so years when this ammo was between $200 and $250 per case of 5,000. It's been the best .22 ammo available for my purposes for a long time. I hope it has not become on of the lesser ammunitions.
Green Frog
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I don't know the composition of the Eley rimfire priming compound, but over the years several companies (including Remington and Aguilla) have experimented with using it. You know when you shoot Eley primed ammo by the distinctive but hard to describe (sweetish?) smell. Once you experience it, you will remember it.
Froggie
as far as .22, I use Eley club to hunt with, and shoot a lot of Aguila std.vel.in my Colt woodsman or old revolvers...can only remember a couple duds in last several years....love it
I don't know the chemical difference, but on the firing line, I can tell if someone is shooting Eley-primed rimfire. It smells "sharp"
I still have 7 cases of Federal Gold Medal Match 22lr (the stuff with the dimple in the head). I haven't bought 22lr in years. I have used about 2000 rounds of Aguila 30 carbine and have been very pleased with it. It's brass cased that I bought at the CMP store south about 10 years ago.
I've used Aguila .22 SV in my Walther GSP in Bullseye competition for several years, since back when CMP was selling it (delivered to my door!) for something like $170 per case of 5K. No complaints whatsoever, either in accuracy or dependability. Several other members of my team have had the same experience.
STORMINORMAN
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I, too, have had good experiences with the Aguila Super Extra HV in many different 22lr applications: truly a quality product IMHO.
Cheers!
P.S. I bought my case quite a while ago and at about $0.046 per round (delivered!) seemed like a very good idea at the time... Now it seems BRILLIANT!
Cheers!
P.S. I bought my case quite a while ago and at about $0.046 per round (delivered!) seemed like a very good idea at the time... Now it seems BRILLIANT!
