Two Old Warriors Reborn

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I would like to share a couple of my favorite study examples. Both are Indian war veterans The Cavalry is of early 1874 vintage and the 1st Model Schofield was in first order delivered to the U.S. Army in 1875. So these two old war horses served togehther.
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At the risk of rambling , let me explain why these old warriors facinate me. Both were returned to the factory for repair, which included refinishing. The Schofield was done in 1926. As Colt did not keep return work records, The date the Cavalry was returned to Colt is in question. John Kopec feels it was done in the 1920's-30's based on the rerolled barral address and certain small parts updates. Other experts I spoken with feel it was refinished in the early 1900's based mainly on the similarity of the reblue to the reblues on Colt factory refurbished Artillries of that period.

Other than 1920's -30's style blue on the Schofield. both guns approximate high condition examples of the guns as they were originialy issued.
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Both guns must have had very crisp metal and little wear when returned give the quality of the refinished results. The respective factorys made great efforts to preserve the originality, original parts and martial stampings on both guns, especially with the Schofield.

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The Schofield was Ordinance inspected by Lewis (although the "L" and "P' on the barrel bottom don't appear to be stamped with Ordinance Inspector dies based on observed examples).
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The Colt was Ordinance inspected by Ainsworth. This Cavalry somehow survived the Ordinance Dept's 1893 recall for alteration.
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I believe the Schofield's grips are original, with both original and restamped SN's and the original cartouche.
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The Colt retains its original parts but show some the "update" changes Colt typically made on factory reworks. These include added cylinder stop approaches(Early SAA's had none).The cylinder is original as the "A" stamp and evidence of the SN remain.
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The original italic barral address is gone, having a later "block" rerolled address and "45 Colt " stamped on the left side.
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However, the barral retains its SN and inspector stamps.
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Its interesting that the Type I ejector housing is unaltered (Colt typically updated these to a Type III upon factory return.
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Also the ejector housing is SN'ed to the gun, which Colt did only for a short period and with in a small SN range which includes the SN of the Cavalry.
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Thanks for looking.
 
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I would like to share a couple of my favorite study examples. Both are Indian war veterans The Cavalry is of early 1874 vintage and the 1st Model Schofield was in first order delivered to the U.S. Army in 1875. So these two old war horses served togehther.
DSC_00030687.jpg

DSC_00160699.jpg

DSC_00051016.jpg

At the risk of rambling , let me explain why these old warriors facinate me. Both were returned to the factory for repair, which included refinishing. The Schofield was done in 1926. As Colt did not keep return work records, The date the Cavalry was returned to Colt is in question. John Kopec feels it was done in the 1920's-30's based on the rerolled barral address and certain small parts updates. Other experts I spoken with feel it was refinished in the early 1900's based mainly on the similarity of the reblue to the reblues on Colt factory refurbished Artillries of that period.

Other than 1920's -30's style blue on the Schofield. both guns approximate high condition examples of the guns as they were originialy issued.
DSC_00050857.jpg

DSCa_001240713.jpg



Both guns must have had very crisp metal and little wear when returned give the quality of the refinished results. The respective factorys made great efforts to preserve the originality, original parts and martial stampings on both guns, especially with the Schofield.

DSC_00110863.jpg


The Schofield was Ordinance inspected by Lewis (although the "L" and "P' on the barrel bottom don't appear to be stamped with Ordinance Inspector dies based on observed examples).
DSC_00061035.jpg

T
The Colt was Ordinance inspected by Ainsworth. This Cavalry somehow survived the Ordinance Dept's 1893 recall for alteration.
DSC_00070691.jpg


I believe the Schofield's grips are original, with both original and restamped SN's and the original cartouche.
DSC_00011024-1.jpg

DSC_00130865.jpg

The Colt retains its original parts but show some the "update" changes Colt typically made on factory reworks. These include added cylinder stop approaches(Early SAA's had none).The cylinder is original as the "A" stamp and evidence of the SN remain.
DSC_00110694.jpg


The original italic barral address is gone, having a later "block" rerolled address and "45 Colt " stamped on the left side.
DSC_00260878.jpg

DSC_00230875.jpg


However, the barral retains its SN and inspector stamps.
DSC_00111022.jpg


Its interesting that the Type I ejector housing is unaltered (Colt typically updated these to a Type III upon factory return.
DSC_00091020.jpg


Also the ejector housing is SN'ed to the gun, which Colt did only for a short period and with in a small SN range which includes the SN of the Cavalry.
DSC_00121023.jpg


Thanks for looking.
 
BRush, now that is nice! That is stuff I love, but dont have. Fine condition old ones that have seen action! I have several, but not that nice. One a rebuilt colt sa that started life in 1906 as a 4 3/4 44 wcf sent to the copper queen mine in bisbee ariz. The other a relic american sawed off made in 1870 or 71 and found in a barn in montanna at a old stagecoach stop.

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very nice! thanks for the photos
 
BRush, Nice. My Schofield could be a twin. Feralmerril, I live 36 miles from Bisbee, AZ. The Copper Queen Mine has tours guided by miners that worked the mine before it closed. If you get to Tucson for the SWCA Convention in 2010, please don't miss the mine tour. Mike
 
Mr Rush: Bravo! Nice display! I also saw on another thread your New York Militia Colt... sweet! I sat with John Kopec at a local gunshow recently, and he had one of the Militia guns for sale... but it was out of my price range at $25,000! The history of these guns is fascinating, and is even more of a tribute to
American innovation and invention during the industrial revolution. Bravo!

MikeyL
S&WCA #2010
 
Mr. Rush: Very nicely done, and great photos. Thanks for the very interesting lesson! I hope we will be seeing more of your posts!
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BRush,
What a wonderful history lesson, with fine pictures, too!
This is the kind of post I could spend hours reading and re-reading.
Thank you.
Don
 
Those are some very nice pistols with a lot of history behind them.

I'd like to believe there's an alternate universe where they're in my collection
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I'm enthused to see the photos of your fine guns and to read your narrative. Thanks for posting the kinds of guns and stuff that interests me most.
 
Nicely Done.

Tastefully Presented in a Mature Fashion with Outstanding Photography.

Of course having sensational Subject Matter helps a great deal.

Thank you for taking the time to put this togeather for us.

Drew
SWCA 1802
 
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