U.S.M.C Sgt. Tahmooressi needs our help!!!

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Arrested in Mexico almost two months ago for mistakenly crossing the border,because of lack of signage on the roads by the border.
We need 100,000 signatures by May 28th 2014 for this petition in order for our government to get involved to get him out of the Mexican prison,out of which we only have less than 60k.This US marine can face up to 21 years in Mexican prison,if we don't,and it could also be worst!
Just type in Demand release of U.S.M.C SGT. Tahmooressi,and the sight will give you instructions.Better yet here is the link! https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/user
Unfortunately there is not much more we can do to help this innocent US Marine at this point, but sign a simple petition to at least increase his chances to be released, and set free. This is the least we can do for him as concerned and caring fellow US citizens.
(HE DESERVES TO BE FREE)
LET US STAND UNITED
God bless you and the USA
 
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Demand release of U.S.M.C SGT. Tahmooressi

It didn't work...
 
More than once our State Department has orchestrated the return of U.S. citizens who have been incarcerated abroad under dubious circumstances.

Private individuals have arranged the repatriation of unjustly arrested U.S. citizens more often, but once publicity has reached the level of Tahmooressis' case, it is in the hands of State.

Now that the actual report of events, diagrams of the intersection and off ramp, road construction and other conditions are coming to light, it seems abundantly clear this American citizen literally got in the wrong lane and drove into the Mexican entry area by accident.

Poor temporary signage and lighting alone have caused other drivers to make this same error.
(Poor border security on our side contributed to this unfortunate accident.
This is an entry point regularly violated by those northbound.)

It can't hurt to contact legislators and ask their attention to this situation.
 
it's easy to get bent out of shape over the issue.
This has been covered in other threads where it was discussed how his crossing point is, by nature, a setup for an irreversible, and easily made mistake.
Our side of that crossing cares less than enough to rework the roadway to facilitate turning around .. and even less than enough to put up signage to avoid entering the roadway, given accounts of those here who have seen it.
the PTB won't invest much effort into this, they've had decades to prove they won't.

I really hate to stick a fork into a man, like yourself, trying to believe in whats right. There are just too many layers of wrong here to support that ideal.

While our words might not be in total agreement, I can assure you that every last one of us is livid about this issue.
Some might duck behind the statement "he screwed up and its on him" ....
Yes .. that is a valid way to look at it, and perhaps a little easier of a way in terms of coping with the reality of it.
Unless someone has the pull to gather a division strength militia and go get him, at the cost of many lives, he will remain a guest of the Mexican government, just like the untold number of folks who have screwed up at that crossing.
Such an organizational effort would be far better spent making that boarder crossing a reasonable affair to back out of for future unsuspecting US citizens that will fall prey to the trap.
It would also be a lot less bloody, and violate far fewer international laws.
 
I signed the petition. I still think the guy has manure for brains, but I don't want to see anyone rotting in a Mexican jail. When he does get back, I'm sure the Marines will have a way of cleansing him of his cranial manure.
 
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Sometimes the feller brought back by a private individual is handed directly over to a LEO with a warrant. Don't think it doesn't happen.
Just a matter of $.
 
Sometimes the feller brought back by a private individual is handed directly over to a LEO with a warrant. Don't think it doesn't happen.

Yeah - why not have a warrant for his arrest for being AWOL - then after he is brought back those charges can be dropped since he was detained against his will.

The very idea that someone could accidentally cross the border makes me wonder just how much time and effort is really being spent stopping those who are deliberately crossing the border illegally.

Also makes you wonder how our government can be so lax or inept that millions of illegals cross FROM Mexico - but the Mexican authorities manage to snag ONE guy as soon as he crosses.

And here I didn't even know we live in the Bizarro universe.
 
Yeah - why not have a warrant for his arrest for being AWOL - then after he is brought back those charges can be dropped since he was detained against his will.
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Once it's in the news, it's too late for that, sort of like when deep pockets show up at the poker game, the limits get too high.:cool:
Push back from the table and ease on out.
 
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Once it's in the news, it's too late for that, sort of like when deep pockets show up at the poker game, the limits get too high.:cool:
Push back from the table and ease on out.

As you pretty well know, Old TexMex, here there are two ways that the regular, everyday Joe has available to deal with "problems".

1. The first way -- and always preferable -- is to "trade favors". What can I do for you to get you to do what I want? Maybe I can do nothing, but perhaps I have a friend who can. Often the promise of a simple good word or introduction is enough. Other times, you need to up the ante. This option only works if you have something to trade as a favor that you are willing to trade. But it is almost always the best option when dealing with Mexicans who have something you want.

2. Throw money at it. This will always work, but the cost is often repugnant and keeps going up everytime you are required to repeat the action to solve a problem. In fact, once the Mexicans -- whose National Sport is removing money from the foreigners -- find out that you are willing to throw money at a problem, they'll keep making sure you keep having problems so you will keep throwing money. It's a vicious circle. I am always amazed at how many regular, everyday people from the U.S. and Canada just never seem to be able to figure this out because they always want the solution applied NOW, with no delay. The Mexicans of course know that, and use the impatience to their advantage to force a money solution over a favor-trade. But the favor-trade is the way it's almost always done by people who live here day-to-day.

I do not like to sound callous when talking about the life and well-being of a fellow human being, but Old TexMex is completely right when he says it has hit the News and now pride has become involved on both sides. I hope that the "officials" dealing with the Mexican side have an actual clue about dealing with Mexicans -- but I fear they will not.

This is a high-stakes poker game now, and probably was from the instant he was detained. The first ante at the table should probably have been something like; "Well, who -- or what -- do we have that you want?" Then let the bargaining begin.

An unwillingness to "play the game" will only lead to throwing money at the problem. You have no idea how often over the last near-quarter-century of living here I have had this discussion with Canadians, Americans, or Europeans and even some South Americans and Asians who were in a bit of a sticky spot due to some deal gone slightly bad with the Mexicans. I have found that even close Canadian friends who have no reason to doubt my word often disbelieve me simply because they are completely unwilling to look at the glass as a Mexican looks at it. That always leads to the money-throw, and it's never the Mexicans doing the throwing.

I hope this turns out positively for the detained Marine but I fear it will become a pride-and-media circus with him just left sitting there to suffer while talking heads who are at the end of the day clueless about doing actual on-the-ground business with Mexicans chat up the airwaves with everything they are doing on his behalf. It's sad. And yes, I am angry that this sort of thing happens and I really do see it all the time as the years go by. If you're going to deal with the Mexicans and can't explain to some disinterested third party how exactly they are looking at the glass, then don't go into the deal because they are not looking at it the same way you are.

If you can explain how they are looking at it (despite whatever claims they might make to having the same vision as you) well then go ahead, and proceed with caution and don't put anything on the table you can't afford to lose. As I said; sad.
 
I know we don't negotiate with terrorists, but maybe with idiots. I suggest a trade. We will trade 10 million illegal immigrants for one US citizen. Sounds like a fair deal to me. I've made a personal pledge to absolutely buy no Mexican product until he is released. Want to join me in the pledge?
 
calmex got it right. To many times Americans think they can travel abroad and get their American rights.

Guess what? They don't do things there like we do in the USA and they don't like the American attitude.

If you're gonna go abroad, heed this warning. No matter if its a wrong turn or what, you're in their country and you'll play by their rules.
 
Do you all remember the movie (The Midnight Express)!!
I doubt that it will be any different than that hell hole in Turkey.
I have been to Mexico once for a week about 7 years ago, I felt like I could not take a deep breath through that whole week for some reason, I just had this un-easy feeling about being there, I did not enjoy my stay, but when I returned home to the US, I immediately started breathing normally again. (True story)
I will NEVER go back and spend my American dollar there ever!!!
Like our fellow member PlanoJack pledges not to buy Mexican products, I will join you brother, by pledging that I can live with no tacos, burritos, and more, till our Sgt. Marine Tahmooressi is released.
 
Do you all remember the movie (The Midnight Express)!!
I doubt that it will be any different than that hell hole in Turkey.
I have been to Mexico once for a week about 7 years ago, I felt like I could not take a deep breath through that whole week for some reason, I just had this un-easy feeling about being there, I did not enjoy my stay, but when I returned home to the US, I immediately started breathing normally again. (True story)
I will NEVER go back and spend my American dollar there ever!!!
Like our fellow member PlanoJack pledges not to buy Mexican products, I will join you brother, by pledging that I can live with no tacos, burritos, and more, till our Sgt. Marine Tahmooressi is released.
Most everything that makes the food good there, just so happens to grow just fine here.
 
calmex got it right. To many times Americans think they can travel abroad and get their American rights.

Guess what? They don't do things there like we do in the USA and they don't like the American attitude.

If you're gonna go abroad, heed this warning. No matter if its a wrong turn or what, you're in their country and you'll play by their rules.

What he ^^^^ said but ill add, what gets me is those here illegally are also getting American rights. Sumptin wrong there.
 
What he ^^^^ said but ill add, what gets me is those here illegally are also getting American rights. Sumptin wrong there.

Yes, it is wrong. When I went through the long immigration process here -- with no money behind me -- I saw lots of Canadians and Americans deported for "paper crimes". I saw Canadians and Americans deported because they got into a legal argument with some highly placed Mexican and when it looked like the derned fereigners might win -- they were deported on some trumped up charge. Mexico is really a tough place to immigrate into, especially if you aren't willing to throw money at it although the laws have relaxed somewhat in the last 5 years.

Of course, on the other hand, since I had no money to begin with (I got my business by assuming the debts of the original owners), I never became a target either. Thus I survived the process and am now the legal equivilent of a "landed immigrant". I could get my Mexican passport...but why would I? It's not like I'd get anything extra that I don't already have by doing it.

It is amazing to me that any country would not vigorously defend it's own borders but it isn't up to me to decide. But Mexico sure does, especially when they might make some money out of doing it. As in this case.

Anyone reading all this who still thinks that "right and wrong" should be a consideration in this conversation just doesn't have enough personal experience with Mexico yet.
 
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