Uberti 1875 schofield, 45 lc

[ky wonder]

I have always love the look of the old big top breaks
But never was able to afford one of the old guns

This 5 incher was unfired in the box
With the faux ivory grips, and the case hardened latch just spoke to me.

The same guy had a new unfired taylor co case hardened 73 clone in 45lc as well with pistol grip, checkering fell in love at first touch
Needles to say they both are now mine
Going back for the rifle tomorrow

 

[rays44]

Congrats. Beautiful revolver. I have the Navy Arms Uberti and have enjoyed it for many years. It's a shooter even with .456 throats.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

I own a pair of Uberti S&W No.3 Russians, and completely understand your love affair!

The quality of these modern guns is top notch! They are safe with standard factory 45 Colt ammo. YOU MUST stay away from the Ruger Only loads! (stay away with the 1873 rifle also)

When you get into reloading (and you will) make a batch using 45 Colt empty brass, but load it to the 45 Schofield bullet weight and velocity. At that point you will understand, why it became a legend.

You can also shoot 45 Schofield ammo in the long Colt chambers of your Schofield revolver. However the 45 Schofield cartridges won't feed properly in your 1873 Winchester replica.

Ivan

 

[Thuer]

I did own a Uberti Schofield for many years. It was a very good shooter. I did use .45 brass cases and used .45 colt .454 sized bullets. I did push the bullet just a bit deeper than normaly by a .45 colt cartridge. I did used the minimum load in the loading tabel for .45 colt. It works great. The Schofield give me a lot of prices. The only big flaw is the thinnes of the forcingcone. Look at your barrel when the cilinder is removed. Look at the point where the barrel meets the cilinderax. That is really thin. After about 10000 shots. That part of the barrel was ripped in for about 3 millimeter. So I stopt shooting my beloved Schofield. I do shoot now a Uberti Russian in ofcource .44 Russian. But this do have the same problem. The forcingcone is still to thin.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

I did own a Uberti Schofield for many years. It was a very good shooter. I did use .45 brass cases and used .45 colt .454 sized bullets. I did push the bullet just a bit deeper than normaly by a .45 colt cartridge. I did used the minimum load in the loading tabel for .45 colt. It works great. The Schofield give me a lot of prices. The only big flaw is the thinnes of the forcingcone. Look at your barrel when the cilinder is removed. Look at the point where the barrel meets the cilinderax. That is really thin. After about 10000 shots. That part of the barrel was ripped in for about 3 millimeter. So I stopt shooting my beloved Schofield. I do shoot now a Uberti Russian in ofcource .44 Russian. But this do have the same problem. The forcingcone is still to thin.

Maybe Uberti will install a new barrel, since they are still in production. It would be worth trying!

Ivan

 

[Glashaus]

Very nice! I have several Uberti's including a 5" Schofield in .38 Special

 

[Muley Gil]

Someday I hope to own a 5" top-break. The closest I have is a 4" Webley MK V that was re-chambered to .45 ACP/.45 Auto Rim. I don't shoot standard ACP ammo in it anymore.

 

[tennexplorer]

A few questions please.

Because of the longer cylinder with no gas ring, they have a reputation for fouling inside the cylinder, especially with black powder. Have you found that to be true with smokeless?

Reviewers have found them with barrel cylinder gaps great that .015". Is that still a problem or just with early guns?

Is point of aim close to point of impact?

Thanks.

 

[Dvus]

I have had several over the years, and yes, they will foul inside the cylinder. Not too bad with smokeless, and some are worse than others,, but after a few cylinders you will notice it. Still not as bad as my original with black powder. If you are wanting to use black powder, a Colt would serve better, IMO. As for the gap, I haven't had one that wide, but they do seem to grow a little as time goes on.
Point of aim has been generally close with mine for the most part, but it does seem to rise with shorter barrels in my experience.

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

A few questions please.

Because of the longer cylinder with no gas ring, they have a reputation for fouling inside the cylinder, especially with black powder. Have you found that to be true with smokeless?

Reviewers have found them with barrel cylinder gaps great that .015". Is that still a problem or just with early guns?

Is point of aim close to point of impact?

Thanks.

I actually have a pair of 7" Russians. I had them over at Dad's farm and was playing with them, when dad said "Let me see that!" At 25 yards he was shooting at the 4 corners of the paper target, going clockwise one shot at each corner. After 48 shots, his four 8 shot groups were less than 1.5" each! This was with ammo loaded to match original 44 Russian ballistics (Not Cowboy action ammo).

The guys I shot with that had 45 Colt chambered Schofields, used ammo loaded to 45 Schofield ballistic in either length case. 200 grain bullet at 750 +/- fps, they got very good accuracy, but not so much with 255 grain bullet at 800 fps.

My 3 lever action rifles ( 2- Rossi 92's & a Marlin 1894 CB) are chambered in 45 Colt, but feed and chamber 45 Schofield just fine.

The 3rd edition of Hodgdon Cowboy Action Data (published 10/98) list 45 S&W Schofield brass, 200 RNFP, and 5.2 gr of HP-38/WW231 at 750 fps and 45 Colt brass, 200 RNFP, and 6.4gr Universal Clays at 750 fps. Both of these loads work great in Uberti Schofield revolvers and POA = POI. The rifles shooting this ammo at Cowboy Action distances (35 yards or less) had the rear sights lowered flat against the barrel to get POA=POI.

Lastly on ammo: The Army had Colt make them the M-1908 revolvers. A Colt New Service with 45 Colt chambering. Frankfort Arsenal loaded a round called 45 US for these guns. It used a case with a 45 Colt rim, 45 Schofield length a 230 grain bullet at 810 fps (I have factory ammo in both lead and jacketed bullets! If those ballistics sound familiar to you, Colonel Thompson developed the 45 Automatic Colt Pistol cartridge to match them exactly! As of 1908 the Army thought 45US ammo was safe to shoot in any gun chambered in 45 Schofield or 45 Colt.

Ivan

 

[boykinlp]

Nice Schofield, I look forward to seeing some pictures of your 1873 rifle when you get it. Taylor makes good ones.
Larry

 

[Grayfox]

I have one of the Uberti/Navy Arms Schofields in .45 Colt and have really enjoyed it. I'd like to find one of the 3.5" versions in .38 Special.

 

[DWalt]

Lastly on ammo: The Army had Colt make them the M-1908 revolvers. A Colt New Service with 45 Colt chambering. Frankfort Arsenal loaded a round called 45 US for these guns. It used a case with a 45 Colt rim, 45 Schofield length a 230 grain bullet at 810 fps (I have factory ammo in both lead and jacketed bullets! If those ballistics sound familiar to you, Colonel Thompson developed the 45 Automatic Colt Pistol cartridge to match them exactly! As of 1908 the Army thought 45US ammo was safe to shoot in any gun chambered in 45 Schofield or 45 Col.
Ivan

I am unaware of a Colt M1908 revolver. The M1909 Colt was essentially the Colt New Service revolver chambered for the M1909 .45 cartridge, which was identical to the .45 Colt, except for having a slightly greater rim diameter to improve the fired case extraction reliability. The M1909 .45 cartridge was loaded only at Frankford Arsenal, never commercially. The Colt M1909 revolver was a stopgap measure mainly intended for use in the Philippines until the M1911 pistol could be officially adopted and issued.

See #7 in the attached posting concerning the .45 Special cartridge used for the 1907 Army pistol trials. http://smith-wessonforum.com/s-w-ha...1-1907-army-trials.html?593941=#post140467257

 

[Ivan the Butcher]

I am unaware of a Colt M1908 revolver. The M1909 Colt was essentially the Colt New Service revolver chambered for the M1909 .

Sorry I was off a year.

The 45 US is actually shorter (Schofield length) with a Colt rim so it could be shot in Colt SAA's, Schofield's and M-1909's' The old revolvers were no longer issued, but Officers provided and owned their own firearms. In the Army's incursion into Mexico, our troops picked up a large number of SAA's and a very few Schofields. The logistic people just so happened to have smokeless ammo for them.

Ivan

 

[ky wonder]

Nice Schofield, I look forward to seeing some pictures of your 1873 rifle when you get it. Taylor makes good ones.
Larry

Here you go