ultra light alloy .380

[dsmdon]

I wish S&W would make an ultra light, alloy framed, compact, DA/SA, .380 similar in size to the colt mustang.

 

[dsmdon]

I wish S&W would make an ultra light, alloy framed, compact, DA/SA, .380 similar in size to the colt mustang.

 

[Gatofeo]

Ouch!
My Walther PPK in .380 has a fair amount of recoil with standard loads.
With my handloads that push an 88 gr. bullet at 1,000 fps, it's quite a handful.
The ultralite .357 Magnum snubnoses are popular, but talk to the people who shoot them and they're almost always carrying .38 Special loads.
Firing a .357 Magnum in such a light gun is disconcertingly painful.
I'm not one of those who subscribes to the idea that you won't notice recoil in a gunfight. As you train, so shall you react.
If you're flinching while practicing, you'll almost certainly flinch in a real situation -- and you may miss your target.
Frankly, I think ultralite guns are a bad idea. Even in .380 it could be quite a handful, promoting flinching.

 

[Andy Taylor]

The Colt Pocketlites don't kick nearly as much as an all steel PPK, because the Colt design uses a locked breach, as opposed to the direct blowback design of the PPK, and most other .380's.
The gun you seek was made by Colt for a brief time. It is the Colt Pony Pocketlite.

 

[animalmother]

I hope S&W does enter the micro 380 ACP market. Ruger is selling boatloads of LCPs.

 

[Andy Taylor]

S&W did make one years ago, the Sigma .380. It was a polymer frame direct blowback design.

 

[dsmdon]

I once owned a colt mustang and loved it. In a young dumb and under funded faze I sold it to finance another purchase. I am aware of the sigma series. What I now would like to have is a high quality S&W made back up similar to the now hard to come by mustang. NOT a plastic toy.

 

[n4zov]

At one time Walther made an aluminum alloy frame version of the PPK .380. I suppose S&W could do the same, but a lightweight PPK would have pretty nasty recoil.

 

[Goony]

I'd also like to see S&W get something going along the lines of the ultra-light & pocktable Kel-Tec 3AT or Ruger LCP. Kahr has also recently addressed this market segment. How S&W's entry could trump these others (but it would need to have all of these):

1. Last round hold open mechanism.

2. A locking system of some sort - recoil with unmoderated blow back operation is too severe.

3. Low profile but usable sights - preferably fiber optics like those made by Novak.

4. Innovative lockwork so that the double acion trigger pull is very light & smooth.

 

[Andy Taylor]

Sig now has something close, although it is SA like the Colt Mustang. The P238.

http://www.sigsauer.com/Produc...t.aspx?categoryid=67

 

[Peakmaker06]

The Sig is a Mustang . S&W should make the Walther PPK in an alloy version. It would be no worse in recoil than a Sig P232. I like my PPK, but it is a little heavy for pocket carry. I had a Sigma 380 and sold it. It had a finite lifespan, and like most polymer guns was too chunky. Smith could go traditional and offer a scaled down model 39 in 380. Smith should do a lot of things, the first is to make the locks optional on all revolvers.