unintended consequences

[CAJUNLAWYER]

This is going to piss a lot of you off, but I got to say it.
Last night someone unloaded a 9mm and based on the sound, it was pretty much within 100 yards if not closer to my house.
Another event, an individual was arrested for being in the parking lot of a known trouble spot bar with a gun sticking out of his waistband. Because the gun was not concealed and he was not inside of the bar, the DA had no choice to refuse charges and now the guy wants his gun back. There is no legal impediment from his getting his gun back.
Even though they have a right under the 2nd amendment and the even more expansive Article 1 section 11 of the Louisiana Constitution, Some people just should not own guns. Period.
Don't know the answer.

 

[ameridaddy]

...Some people just should not own guns. Period.
Don't know the answer.

Darwin would work for me.

 

[M29since14]

In my opinion, there are a lot of people who shouldn't be allowed to do a lot of things - speak, vote, hold public office, reproduce, breathe air, etc. What are you going to do… ?

 

[NYlakesider]

This is going to piss a lot of you off, but I got to say it.
Last night someone unloaded a 9mm and based on the sound, it was pretty much within 100 yards if not closer to my house.
Another event, an individual was arrested for being in the parking lot of a known trouble spot bar with a gun sticking out of his waistband. Because the gun was not concealed and he was not inside of the bar, the DA had no choice to refuse charges and now the guy wants his gun back. There is no legal impediment from his getting his gun back.
Even though they have a right under the 2nd amendment and the even more expansive Article 1 section 11 of the Louisiana Constitution, Some people just should not own guns. Period.
Don't know the answer.

One of NYS many laws is the discharge of firearms within 500' of a occupied dwelling. If your own property of course you are all right, but close to someone else's dwelling you have to have permission.

 

[CAJUNLAWYER]

One of NYS many laws is the discharge of firearms within 500' of a occupied dwelling. If your own property of course you are all right, but close to someone else's dwelling you have to have permission.

Oh I absolutely agree-the guy(gal?) was breaking the law. But catching, identifying and prosecuting are a whole different story.
Kinda like catching the guy in the act tearing the label off a mattress. You have to actually catch him in the act or get him to confess in order to prove he did it. Which begs the question, "What sort of animal does something like that anyway?"

 

[NFrameFred]

Which begs the question, "What sort of animal does something like that anyway?"

Answered your own question there, Caj . . .

 

[Buzzzer]

In my opinion, there are a lot of people who shouldn't be allowed to do a lot of things - speak, vote, hold public office, reproduce, breathe air, etc. What are you going to do… ?

Totally agree, you can't strip someone of their rights based on assumptions or opinions, as we all know. You also can't do it based on the "what if's" of life.

Kind of like a person getting a speeding ticket (even if it's 10 mph over) then loses their license because their speeding could have hurt/killed someone. People would be in an uproar if a state would pass a law like that. IMO, some people shouldn't be allowed to drive. However, they still do because it's lawful for them to. It's not my place to tell others what they can do, or can't. Blatantly breaking the law is different, of course. In your case of the unloading of a handgun close to your residence, that is blatant.

You still can't fix, regulate, or legislate stupid...

 

[Jon651]

I believe that the first rule of being a responsible gun owner is to be responsible with your guns. Unfortunately, too many out there just don't seem to agree with me...

 

[Bald1]

I'm not clear on second guy. Is he not allowed to have it concealed? You mention he's outside of bar. How is that significant under state laws?

 

[M29since14]

Oh I absolutely agree-the guy(gal?) was breaking the law. But catching, identifying and prosecuting are a whole different story.
Kinda like catching the guy in the act tearing the label off a mattress. You have to actually catch him in the act or get him to confess in order to prove he did it…

Someone once said, "The law is a crude instrument." From what I can see, it certainly is. Very crude, I might say.

 

[mckenney99]

After a career in LE and then 10 years of working in & managing gun shops I believe there are people in this world that should not be allowed to reproduce and/or handle firearms. Both tend to produce results that have long term negative effects on the rest of society.

 

[kozmic]

It annoys me to no end that people are either that helplessly ignorant or that obliviously rude to squeeze off rounds of anything that close to an occupied dwelling. Forget the obvious danger. It is a black eye to all gun owners who always practice safe and responsible gun handling and shooting.

 

[old bear]

Times have changed. Everyone believes they are special and may do anything they choose to do, no matter how stooped. As for gun safety, the only time my Dad hit other than a well-deserved spanking, was the time I pointed a firearm at another person. Did I learn my lesson, you bet your *** I did. Perhaps a little of that time needs to return.
Play stupid games with dangerous things and be prepared to pay a Stiff price for doing so.

 

[WR Moore]

The tone of this thread brought a memory to mind. Elder son had to go to traffic school and take a parent. I have to admit I learned a few things about the vagarities of VA traffic laws.

But the instructor started off by asking a few folks why they got sent to the school. One young lady was there because she got cited for 70 mph (?) in a 25/35 mph (can't recall exactly) residential area at around 10-11 PM. She was highly aggrieved both that she got the ticket and had to attend the class. The instructor tried mightily to get her to see the error of her ways and finally gave up. Not sure if her cert to the court of attendance had any additional comments. This was before such excessive speed would have meant an automatic license loss.

Retrospective thought. If she had kids, wonder how they turned out?

 

[Nevada Ed]

You must live in a very "Special" city;

where you can shoot guns , inside of the city limits and not be cited
on at least four counts !!

Maybe the mayor should write a letter to start the ball rolling, to prevent this, from happening;
or at least let the peolple know what can happen to them, if it does.

In Nevada;
evidence is taken and not returned until after a trial, only if you are a good guy.

 

[Rudi]

We are all in grave danger. And things can get much worse. Be prepared.

 

[smoothshooter]

Does not sound like the guy with the gun sticking out of his waistband broke any laws.
The person doing all the shooting is another matter.

 

[Rustyt1953]

 

[OmaEnb1]

I never did buy into the whole 'second amendment confers a sacred individual right to carry a gun' argument. And it is not as firmly established as many on gun blogs believe.

If nothing else, make the idiot hire a lawyer.

 

[Rustyt1953]

I never did buy into the whole 'second amendment confers a sacred individual right to carry a gun' argument. And it is not as firmly established as many on gun blogs believe.

If nothing else, make the idiot hire a lawyer.

"...the right of the people to keep and bear arms..."