Universal Registration, aka common sense background checks

2hawk

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I just sent this to my Senators, courtesy of GOA:

"April 12, 2013

[recipient address was inserted here]


[recipient name was inserted here],

I was disappointed to see that 68 Senators did not support the
Paul-Cruz-Lee filibuster. Now that the Senate has moved to proceed to S.
649, several gun control issues will be coming up - including the
universal registry bill, the Feinstein gun ban, and the magazine ban.

As for the Toomey-Manchin-Schumer universal registry bill, don't believe
the press' efforts to sugar-coat it. If you have ever had an "Internet ...
posting" on (or related to) your gun, you can sell it only by going to a
dealer and filling out a 4473 and getting the government's approval. Only
a cave man would be exempt.

And once you have a 4473? Well, as Gun Owners of America has documented
on its website, ATF is going from dealer to dealer, copying the
information on these forms, and feeding it into a database. But, says
Toomey, he's against universal registries. This is where it would have
helped if Toomey had consulted someone who knew something about guns.

First of all, his anti-registry language prohibits photocopying the
4473's, but it doesn't prohibit going into the FFL with a laptop and
copying all the information. Second, ATF takes the position that the data
it's accumulating in a database is not a "registry," so Toomey's ban does
no good. Third, guess what the sanction is for violation of Toomey's
anti-registry language? Answer: Eric Holder has to choose to prosecute
himself and his own department.

But this isn't the only bad thing about Toomey-Schumer.

Section 107 of the sell-out also waives any federal privacy prohibitions
under HIPAA to sending the names of Americans with PTSD, ADHD, and post
partem depression to the gun ban database.

But that's not all. Because private shrinks will be able to add patients
names into a federal database of the mentally ill - WITHOUT DUE PROCESS -
you will be at their mercy.

As Red State editor, Erick Erickson says, "Activist mental health
providers will probably be overly aggressive in adding people to the list.
Give it five years in liberal areas and people who believe in the physical
resurrection of Christ will probably get automatic entry onto the list."

And as for veterans? Title I of Toomey-Schumer reinforces the proposition
that bureaucrats in the Department of Veterans Affairs can take away
veterans' rights without any due process. If a veteran has $30,000 to
spend getting back the rights Toomey-Schumer wrongly took from him, the
sell-out creates yet another redundant money-trap for restoration of
rights that shouldn't have been taken away in the first place.

What if you want to travel across the country? McClure-Volkmer allowed you
to do that with an unloaded gun in the trunk (18 U.S.C. 926A). But, under
the Toomey-Schumer sell-out, unless you can "demonstrate," to the
satisfaction of the New York police (1) where you came from, (2) where
you're going, (3) that you're legally entitled to possess the gun in the
place you can from, and (4) that you're legally entitled to possess the
gun in the place you're going, THEY WILL ARREST YOU in New York.

The Toomey-Schumer sell-out creates a Biden-like commission to insure that
the cries for gun control continue.

Like sprinkles on a pile of dung, Toomey and Schumer steal some of the
proposals we drafted and try to use them to get us to buy onto gun
control. But it won't work.

The gun movement is united against this disgusting pile of gun control.

So here is the new battlefield. In order for gun control to move forward,
Toomey and Schumer will have to get 60 votes for their gun control
abomination. And the entire Second amendment movement - GOA, NRA, etc. -
are against it.

Hence, what I'm asking you to do is vote against cloture on the
Toomey-Schumer sell-out. Please let me know your position on this issue.
Know that a vote in against cloture will be scored as a pro-gun vote by
Gun Owners of America.

Sincerely,

2hawk"

The call for universal background checks is nothing more than a way to achieve universal registration. It may be back door, and in violation of the spirit of the current law and the language of the proposal, but honestly, can we trust the Atty. General and the ATF not to violate our rights? I don't think so.

Please get involved, write your elected representatives, and keep the pressure on them! Without a strong pushback from us, the law abiding gun owners of this country, we are going to see the government setting up the framework that would make it possible for them to confiscate all privately held firearms. Don't give up without a fight!

If you are not on the GOA mailing list, you can go here to send the same letter to your Senators: take-action

Like Phil Knight says, "Just Do It!"
 
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House will trash it enough to put it in file 13. Do not worry about it. Just do your best in their district that you live in and,give them a pink slip next election. Even all or most from the anti states.
 
I used the send a letter to your representative on the NRA site and was fully expecting to be lost in all the letters written by others. Here is what I wrote:

I am writing to you concerning Bills S. 374 and S. 649. As a voter, US citizen born and raised in this great nation, I strongly urge you to vote against Universal Background Checks.

Universal Background Checks in one step towards creating a national registry.


Criticism of the National Instant Criminal Background Check System (NCIS):

Federal Register Volume 63, Number 107 (Thursday, June 4, 1998) under CATEGORIES OF INDIVIDUALS COVERED BY THE SYSTEM, (L) "information about the individual will only be retained temporarily for audit purposes and will be destroyed after eighteen months."

Does this also apply to systems backups? Does the audits specify data destruction on backup data?


Criticism of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF).

Under the current system, a buyer of a firearm from a dealer would have to file a form 4473 which contains the name, address, date of birth, and firearm data. The ATF have been known in the past to record this data (see The Denver Post, Firearms charges reveal a mystery, June 5, 2000).


Criticism of the Bills S. 374 and S. 649.

In states which does recognizes gay marriages, gun transfers would be legal and exempt. In states which do not recognize gay marriages, they become a straw buyer and gun trafficker.

Unwieldy costs. Current costs for transfers in my area averages $40 per transaction. To handle all those personal transactions would require FFL time and cost which $10 per transaction would not cover; time better spent with buying customers.

Sandy Hook was a terrible incident which shocked the entire country. But I feel these bills would put undue burden to the average citizen's second amendment rights. The data collected is too desirable to the agency which traces firearms to destroy. Something as innocuous as not putting data backups in the language of these bills makes them available in creating a registry. These bills are dangerous to our civil liberties and should not be passed.

Unfortunately, here is the reply I received from Sen Patty Murry (D) below. It looks like a staff member actually read it as a previous letter I sent I received a detailed form letter.

Dear Mr. XXX (my real last name):

Thank you for contacting my office. Your thoughtful comments are greatly appreciated.

The views of Washingtonians are very important to my work. I will keep your thoughts in mind, and I encourage you to stay in touch. If you would like to know more about my work in the Senate, please feel free to sign up for my weekly updates at Senator Murray

Again, thank you for taking the time to share your thoughts with me.

Sincerely,

Patty Murray
United States Senator
 
What does the Second Amendment mean under this?

Please explain how the Second Amendment works. What, the Well Armed Militia is now people only in your family, or people you transfer to a gun shows with a BGC, or in a parking lot in a free state if the transferee has a CC permit? Or a public sale in time of National Emergency in your own yard, no doubt well attended by the evil object of the very need for the 2nd to come in to play.... sorta like asking King George's General Gage to come to your open house in Lexington, right after the guy rides past talking about "one if by land, two if by sea". What does "infringe" mean?
 
Bumping for the weekend. We need to keep up our vocal opposition to any new schemes to restrict our rights. Now is not the time to say we won, or it won't matter. Take a few minutes of your time to strike a blow for freedom!

JOIN: NRA Membership
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WRITE
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VOTE
: S. 649: Safe Communities, Safe Schools Act of 2013
S. 691: High-Capacity Ammunition Magazine Ban of 2013
The Toomey-Schumer-Manchin Amendment
 
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Every time I hear a politician or someone representing a politician say "common sense" anything I want to find a wall to back up to. :D :D :D

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