USS Thresher. Hope it's not a hoax or conspiracy.

[rwsmith]

The US Navy has released groups of documents to a court order. One thing they show is the haphazard state of the sub program that contributed to the sinking. They fixed that with the SubSafe program.

The second revelation is that the USS Seawolf says that they were in contact with the Thresher through various signals for 24 hours after the accident. The scene was chaotic but the Seawolf called for silence as they traded signals such as banging, keyed mikes, sonar pings and garbled voice messages. If the sub had achieved near neutral buoyancy it may have taken some time to sink to crush depth. It's the line by line Seawolf account that is most compelling.

I can see the Navy holding the details that surely ended up in the Subsafe program close to their vest but it may be that quick end to the Thresher's crew may have been window dressing.

 

[Onomea]

Here's an article on this.

Questions About Infamous Lost Sub Resurface as Navy Releases New Documents Tied to Decades-Old Mystery | Military.com

I think the evidence, noted in the link, that the crew died instantly when the Thresher imploded, is pretty compelling. I can see how the crew of the Seawolf, searching desperately, unaware of the evidence, might have believed they were possibly hearing survivors.

I remember that incident from my boyhood.

 

[rwsmith]

Surely when it crushed, it was quick...

Here's an article on this.

Questions About Infamous Lost Sub Resurface as Navy Releases New Documents Tied to Decades-Old Mystery | Military.com

I think the evidence, noted in the link, that the crew died instantly when the Thresher imploded, is pretty compelling. I can see how the crew of the Seawolf, searching desperately, unaware of the evidence, might have believed they were possibly hearing survivors.

I remember that incident from my boyhood.

Yeah, I was in the third grade when the office people came and got a girl out of our class whose father was lost. Very sad day.

You're right, there's nothing definitive that says the Thresher survived longer, the scene was chaotic and surely the Seawolf reported EVERYTHING they heard. It's just new info and raises the possibility the sub lived longer than they let on.

I re-read the 'official' account and the Skylark heard 'exceeding test depth' then breaking up sounds. If that matches what's in the report I'd put my money on the original story.

 

[chuckie]

The street leading to the Middle School in my City is named after the USS Thresher.

 

[STCM(SW)]

All the DD's in New Port RI in my division were all out looking/hearing if we could find the Thresher.
Being a sonar man, well nothing was recorded or heard.

 

[VictorLouis]

If you have not seen it, I can highly recommend the film on the sinking of Russia's Kursk. It really puts into focus the ultimate sacrifice that can be asked of submariners and their families. (Have Kleenex ready.)

[ame]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xExzwSc4_eQ[/ame]

 

[crazyphil]

We lived in Idaho Falls in the early 1960s. A navy man lived next door
to us. He made home brew in his garage. Would invite me over for a
drink every now and then. Nice guy. He was undergoing training out at
the National Reactor Laboratory. Later I learned he was on the USS
Thresher.

 

[bushmaster1313]

I studied chemical engineering and took one elective in nuclear power safety. I was not a very good engineering student but I knew one thing well.
I did not want a job tending a reactor on a submarine.

The bravery of the men and women of the United States Military is something to be forever grateful.

 

[Rudi]

Brave, brave men. May the Lord bless all submariners.

 

[jimbo728]

129 Angels of the deep. God save their souls.
Jim

 

[Beemerguy53]

My father was a chemical engineer for the US Navy, who worked on the CO2 air scrubbers on nuclear submarines. When I was a kid, Dad was gone for weeks at a time on shakedown cruises and sea trials.

In the first week of April, 1963, Dad's orders were changed, and an engineer from Sperry Gyroscope took his place on the Thresher. I was 10 years old, and I will never forget what happened that night when the news report was broadcast that the Thresher had been lost: Dad's face turned white, and he walked out of the living room and went upstairs...

To the day he died, Dad kept a large framed photo of SSN-593 displayed in his home. I have it now. There were two engineers from Sperry on the Thresher that day, and one of them wasn't supposed to be there...

Dad was involved in the investigation into the Thresher's sinking. He never said anything other than that she sank immediately. I'm not saying this new scenario is impossible, just that I never heard it before, from someone who was surely in a position to know...

 

[SS336]

I was in the Navy 64-68. Submarine qualified, served on SS336 and commissioning crew on SSBN656. Did 3 boomer patrols before getting out in 68.
Everyone talked about the Thresher, there were a lot of theory’s but I think nobody knows for sure. Nobody survived.
My service was bookended by Thresher and Scorpion, was an interesting time to begin the Submarine service. Only supposition but the secrets will never be known for sure.
May those brave sailors be forever remembered and RIP.

 

[BLACKHAWKNJ]

Pervis Robison, Jr. from Nutley, NJ was on the Thresher.

 

[AJ]

We can only hope that they did not suffer long.

 

[waffles]

Here's an article on this.

Questions About Infamous Lost Sub Resurface as Navy Releases New Documents Tied to Decades-Old Mystery | Military.com

I think the evidence, noted in the link, that the crew died instantly when the Thresher imploded, is pretty compelling. I can see how the crew of the Seawolf, searching desperately, unaware of the evidence, might have believed they were possibly hearing survivors.

I remember that incident from my boyhood.

That's the best read on it I think, and conveniently the one I hope happened. Ruling out a reality in which they got rescued or suffered no mishap, I'd really hope nobody had enough time to register their fate.

 

[Beemerguy53]

This is the photo of the Thresher that Dad had in his home over the years...

 

[rwsmith]

I don't know if it's still there....

I studied chemical engineering and took one elective in nuclear power safety. I was not a very good engineering student but I knew one thing well.
I did not want a job tending a reactor on a submarine.

The bravery of the men and women of the United States Military is something to be forever grateful.

...but at the Naval Weapons station they had 'Reactor School' for the submariners that wanted to enter the field. It was very tough and easy to wash out of. I met a few guy that were on the edge of a nervous breakdown.

 

[AJ]

...but at the Naval Weapons station they had 'Reactor School' for the submariners that wanted to enter the field. It was very tough and easy to wash out of. I met a few guy that were on the edge of a nervous breakdown.

Knew a guy that was on Boomers. He was a bit of a kook!

 

[rwsmith]

This is an old thread, but the scenario is exactly the same...

... the 'sounds' heard by the Seawolf match the Titan submersible's search efforts that claimed that they heard banging noises at intervals that would suggest survivors being alive for some time. Obviously that was not the case in either scenario as the sounds of the implosion shortly after running into trouble, along with the pictures of the wreckage on the bottom. History repeats itself.