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Yep I got my cheap digi cam out and made some video's concerning my Sigma 9mm. There is nothing earth shattering in these vid's. A lot of stuff many have seen before. And maybe something not seen before. Along with my cometary.

So far I have 4 segments in the can. I will be posting links to the vid's in this thread as they upload.

Hope you enjoy them.

Jeff

Part 1, Field Striping and cometary.
YouTube - Sigma 9mm, Part 1, Turning a pigs ear into a silk purse

Part 2, Breaking down the slide and cometary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eoxiJNFYRQI&feature=channel

Part 3, Trigger job as it stands right now and cometary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iwM5JI3woeI&feature=channel

Part 4, Main trigger assemble and cometary.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16FcYrHbt1s&feature=channel

Part 5, Putting the Sigma back together.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GWRUxjJOlFI
 
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I agree, I hope they post the other segments soon, I am looking forward to them... 1magi
 
nice videos my friend. thanks for taking the time to do them.
 
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Thank you for posting your videos.
They answered a lot of questions.
 
Here are some iphone pics. My first range target and my last shot target as of tonight with the Sigma.

The day I bought the pistol.
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I was all over the place and pulling high right,,,, damn trigger from hell!

Today's effort's at a local range in Little Rock. Yes I'm on the road for work.
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There are 4 mag's on target. 2 are Rem. Sure Shot and 2 Win. White Box. 3 mags two hand. 1 mag single hand. Low left is single hand.

The RM ran one mag of his ammo through it on his target and proclaimed it was the best Sigma he had ever shot! He ripped a 16 shot 3" group with 2 fliers at 10 yards and loved the trigger. All my shooting tonight was also at 10 yards. With less than 6 hours sleep since Sunday.

It's coming along nicely. I think you can see the double and triple taps. :)

Jeff
 
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jdmdriver8 said:
good stuff jeff!!!! your the sigma man.
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Not really. Basic Smithing and caring for a firearm is easy. Lets face firearms advance tech wise about as fast as the hammer has. While it's easy to make a hammer or even mod it for your use. It can be very tricky learning to use one. And if you don't use one often you will have black and blue fingers or pecker tracks all over your work.

I'm real rusty at using a firearm. ;) And thats more important than anything. :D
 
blastfact said:
Not really. Basic Smithing and caring for a firearm is easy. Lets face firearms advance tech wise about as fast as the hammer has. While it's easy to make a hammer or even mod it for your use. It can be very tricky learning to use one. And if you don't use one often you will have black and blue fingers or pecker tracks all over your work.

I'm real rusty at using a firearm. ;) And thats more important than anything. :D
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true but your the only guy (that I know of) to post a complete video set about removal and some of your ideas about the sigma upgrades. For that you get a big thumbs up froim me on that.
Hopefully your videos can lay to rest so many questions about the sigma.
 
Great Videos!

I'm posting this UPDATE for everyone to read!


Regarding Frank Smith, the Texas S&W Authorized Factory Service Center Gunsmith doing the free trigger clean-up jobs.

As of TODAY, 11/13/09, he IS NOT doing them! Apparently, someone posted his or S&W's FEDEX account number (S&W paid for the roundtrip express shipping) on some gun forums and they had to shut down the account! He said today that it would be approx 2 weeks until he has the new account info. He is UNSURE if he can continue doing what he's been doing due to this!

I called Bolsa Gunsmithing (another S&W Authorized Service Center) which happens to be 4 miles from where I live in So. Cal. They said it WAS NOT covered under warranty, and that they charged $65 for a "trigger job" on a Sigma with a 2 week turnaround time. I brought up Frank and they said that they heard he and S&W were doing them under warranty.

So, I called S&W Factory - they said, "NO WAY" is an "action job" covered under warranty! The Sigma comes with a 10 lb. trigger pull - that's how it's designed! And IF Frank is doing "action jobs" as a warranty repair, then we may have to have a little talk with him!

So, it looks as though someone really screwed things up for Sigma owners wanting to get that FREE "factory trigger job"!
 
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I hate to hear this! Real or not concerning the Sigma. With just a tad of tuning.... And I mean just a tad. I feel its the bargin of the decade....

I don't have a over all issue with a 10 lb. trigger.... I do have a big concern over the grit! But while you are there cleaning up the lack luster production,,, why not lighten up the trigger a tad and improve on its reset?

Let us be frank here. If S&W had spent no more than 15 sec's more in mass production on finishing the pistol out. And put 10 cents more into it's matrial cost over all. It would be the best mass market pistol of the decade and push twords best ever in its market segment. Hell lets put a floating barrel bushing in it. Got a lathe?

There is a bunch of good in this firearm. :)
 
blastfact said:
With just a tad of tuning.... And I mean just a tad. I feel its the bargin of the decade....


There is a bunch of good in this firearm. :)
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I absolutely agree! ;)

I was an "early adopter" to Sigmas, as I bought my Model SW40F when they first came out, for around $250. I like the looks of the 1st generation better than the 2nd generation (although, I'd love to have the mounting rail). I hate the side grip checkering and the bi(sexual)-tone look! Call me "Old School", because I like my guns ALL STAINLESS or ALL BLUED!

I remember reading all the gun mag articles about how much money and research S&W spent on R&D regarding men's hand size, natural point angle, etc., to design their ergonomic grip. Glock's were just starting to get very popular in the early-to-mid 90's and so was the "new" .40 cal. S&W round. I shot the .40 Glock at the range and I hated the boxy feel of the grip. When I first held the Sigma in my hand, I knew it was the gun for me! It felt PERFECT!

I also read about the heavy trigger pull; however, I was pleasantly surprised when I first shot it! It was much lighter than I had expected, based upon what I had read! Yes, it had a heavy pull compared to a "match gun", but it was smooth, although long, with a crisp break. Mine was never gritty!

It seems that lately, there have been alot more postings about Sigmas- probably because the newbies are looking for the cheapest defensive handgun they can find, (and, I don't blame them!) This gun is the designed for accurate and reliable self-defense! ... ie. for KILLING BAD GUYS! (both foreign and domestic) Point. Period. It is NOT a "match gun". Just like a 4X4 is NOT a 2 door sports coupe! Everything has it's purposeful design!

Most of my guns have had the actions polished and had trigger jobs, etc... so, this is no different! I have 2.5 to 3 lb. pulls on my 9mm EAA Silver Team Match Race Gun, on my .45 cal. Colt Stainless Gold Cup Commander and on my 44 mag. S&W Stainless, Magna-Ported Model 29, ... so, I'm used to a light trigger pull! Yet, I had no problem adjusting to the heavier pull of the Sigma.

In my opinion, I bought a better looking, better feeling "Glock" at HALF THE PRICE! And, I supported "MADE IN USA"!

Plus, with the 15 round (.40 cal) preban hi-capacity and living in the "Republic of Kalifornia", I will never get rid of it!

Just look at this beauty - much nicer than a Glock!

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" So, I called S&W Factory - they said, "NO WAY" is an "action job" covered under warranty! The Sigma comes with a 10 lb. trigger pull - that's how it's designed! And IF Frank is doing "action jobs" as a warranty repair, then we may have to have a little talk with him!

So, it looks as though someone really screwed things up for Sigma owners wanting to get that FREE "factory trigger job"! "

It sounds like you contributed to the "screwed things up" situation with your call to S&W . . .
 
Rick-F said:
It sounds like you contributed to the "screwed things up" situation with your call to S&W . . .
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Nope, I came along "after-the-fact".

Frank told me HE was UNSURE if HE could continue doing what he's been doing due to this! That was BEFORE I called S&W. The proverbial "cat was already out-of-the-bag" based upon his statement!
 
This is bad news!! I just bought a sigma 9mm after reading MANY times that this was an option if I didn't like the trigger. Loved the look and feel of the gun but the trigger talk was turning me off. Heard of this and decided to give it a shot. Haven't shot it yet and already this is not an option. Really hopeing that I'm not wishing I would have bought the ruger p95.
 
blastfact said:
Yep I got my cheap digi cam out and made some video's concerning my Sigma 9mm. There is nothing earth shattering in these vid's. A lot of stuff many have seen before. And maybe something not seen before. Along with my cometary.

So far I have 4 segments in the can. I will be posting links to the vid's in this thread as they upload.

Hope you enjoy them.

Jeff

Part 1, Field Striping and cometary.
YouTube - Sigma 9mm, Part 1, Turning a pigs ear into a silk purse

Part 2, Breaking down the slide and cometary.
YouTube - Sigma 9mm, Part 2, Turning a pigs ear into a silk purse

Part 3, Trigger job as it stands right now and cometary.
YouTube - Sigma 9mm, Part 3, Turning a pigs ear into a silk purse

Part 4, Main trigger assemble and cometary.
YouTube - Sigma 9mm, Part 4, Turning a pigs ear into a silk purse

Part 5, Putting the Sigma back together.
YouTube - Sigma, Part 5
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Just came back from watching all of them after being sent there on my question of how to get the slide end cap off with out marring it. Just decided to watch all of them and ... awesome. Thank you for putting them up they are great.

Alex
 
blastfact said:
I hate to hear this! Real or not concerning the Sigma. With just a tad of tuning.... And I mean just a tad. I feel its the bargin of the decade....

I don't have a over all issue with a 10 lb. trigger.... I do have a big concern over the grit! But while you are there cleaning up the lack luster production,,, why not lighten up the trigger a tad and improve on its reset?

Let us be frank here. If S&W had spent no more than 15 sec's more in mass production on finishing the pistol out. And put 10 cents more into it's matrial cost over all. It would be the best mass market pistol of the decade and push twords best ever in its market segment. Hell lets put a floating barrel bushing in it. Got a lathe?

There is a bunch of good in this firearm. :)
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and if i do...?

how does a floating barrel bushing work, like the p2000 h&k? let's talk
 
Damn that sucks about Frank and the free trigger jobs. I should have sent mine to him last April when my striker broke. I ended up sending it to S&W instead. :(
 
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