Visiting New Zealand???

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Sometime in the last quarter of 2021/first quarter of 2022 New Zealand will likely be opening its borders again to international tourism. There will be a few caveats, it is likely that proof of a covid-19 vaccination will be required or you will need to spend 14 days in managed isolation/quarantine (at a cost of NZ$5,500).

Anyone thinking of coming here may be interested in this little story.

Some time before Covid I had the pleasure (well, pleasure for me, it cost the couple NZ$120 for excess speed) of meeting a young couple in their 30's from Clarksville, TN. He was a soldier in the US Army and was surprised I was aware of Fort Campbell until I told him that the nephew of a friend is based there.

We spoke of the different scenery between the two places. They were convinced that nothing in Tennessee matched Kiwi country, until I reminded them of the scenery coming off the Cumberland Plateau to the Smokey Mountains. And the back highways of central Tennessee are very similar to this country. I guess that made them think a bit.

Anyway they had allocated 14 days for their Kiwi holiday, 4 days travel and 10 days to see the country. After all, New Zealand is only half the size of California, right?

The issue was, as they found out on arrival, that NZ is narrower and longer than California. The islands are separated by water that requires at least 3 hours on a ferry to cross, and we in fact have more coastline than the continental U.S.

They had spent two days in Aukland, a third day driving to Wellington, where they were going to get the ferry across to the South Island and spend two more days driving to Wanaka where the highlight of the trip was to take the same helicopter flight as had been filmed for the Mission Impossible Fallout movie.

They had already decided they needed to return to see more of the country, especially our two quite different coastlines.

They had missed out this trip on some very special things. The Northland experience, especially the Bay of Islands. The Waikato, including Hobiton. Taupo and Rotorua. They had driven right through Taupo that day but missed Rotorua, the Maori cultural capital of the country. Wellington, which is the overall culture capital, the wineries of Marlborough, The west coast of the South Island, and so much more.

As I told them a week in Auckland and Northland would only scratch the surface.Another week for much of the rest of the North Island (and that would entail missing the west coast) plus 10 - 14 days in the South Island. At least!

Now not everyone would want to do all of those things. But it really got me thinking. How much do travel consultants in the U.S. actually know about this country? Probably about as much as our travel consultants know about the U.S. Not much (I had one tell me that a week between Houston, Memphis, Nashville and New Orleans was sufficient to see everything. I told him only if you wanted to drive all day, every day, and see nothing but the inside of your car).

So to any forum member thinking of a visit to Kiwiland, drop me a line. Tell me how much time you have and what your interests are. I will give my advice quite freely.
 
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Thanks for the write up, and for the offer, Kiwi. I've come close to visiting your country several times, but have not yet had the pleasure. I certainly hope to, one of these days!
 
The next visit I'll fly Philippine Air to Manila and Cebu Pacific to Auckland and use my savings on local stout!

I still think South Island is the most beautiful place in the South Pacific
 
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I can attest as to the beauty of NZ. I was there for a week back in '82 when my ship made some port calls there, including Wellington, Napier, and Tauranga. I took a train trip from Napier to Wellington and back to see a girl I met in Wellington during our first port call. I remember the scenery more than I remember of the girl!
 
.... allocated 14 days for their Kiwi holiday.....
Something that my foreign friends find hard to believe is that many/most private sector employees in the USA only get, or can take, 10 consecutive work days off. That's why vacation offerings longer than 16 days marketed here are rare.
 
Kiwi, thanks for the great post! I have made 8 trips to NZ and feel I have only scratched the surface! I have visited many of the places you have mentioned but probably just superficial visits, I end up (wasting?) most of my time fly fishing. I was there in March of 2020 and managed to get home with an unplanned detour through Australia a couple of days before the pandemic was proclaimed. I had planned two more trips there in 2020. I have had my vaccines and my fondest hope is to return late this year or early next year. At my age I'm not sure how many trips I have left in me but sure hope for a few more.
 
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I and my family spent two weeks touring New Zealand (both islands) in 1984, and we loved it. We saw all of the sights we could cram in to two weeks, but we had such a good time, we wanted to stay for many more. Probably the most memorable event was flightseeing in a small plane over Milford Sound. Spectacular does not begin to describe that experience!

We had some non-typical tourist experiences as well. My two sons-in-law played a round of golf at Dunedin, and discovered that the golf pro there was friends with the pro at their local course here in Texas. However, the biggest non-typical tourist event occurred at the end of the tour. One of the single female passengers on our tour bus married the driver. Now that's New Zealand hospitality!
 
I had planned on retiring to New Zealand when I retired from the military in 75. I had a job promised in Hastings and the military would have moved all my stuff down there.
We would have had the Army retirement plus my NZ job.
However we had adopted 2 girls during my last tour in Korea and That must have put us over the limit. Our application was denied.
 
We visited NZ in 2017 - staying on the South Island for a week before heading to Australia. It was beautiful country and reminded me of Oregon when I moved here in 1960. I would love to go back and see more. If I had to move somewhere else on this planet of ours, New Zealand would be at or near the top of my list.

Jerry
 
We did the cruise line thing from Sydney, around NZ for 11 days, then back to Sydney. Hit all the standard cities/ports the cruise lines go to. We'd like to do it again, doing more of the interior than the coast.
 
Something that my foreign friends find hard to believe is that many/most private sector employees in the USA only get, or can take, 10 consecutive work days off. That's why vacation offerings longer than 16 days marketed here are rare.

Dang, is that right? I never knew.

Way back when I was a kid my parents got 3 weeks holiday a year from just before Christmas until after New Year. Now it is 4 weeks.

In my job after 7 years you get another (5) weeks annual leave a year. Then there is 40 hours (1 week) of shift workers leave, 11 (soon to be 12) statutory holiday days plus another 3 days of "physical competency test" leave. All adds up to around 9 weeks a year. Some of us have to take the statutory days as they fall but front line workers get them credited even if they fall on a day off.

After 14 years we qualify for 4 weeks Long Service Leave with another 5 weeks at 20 years plus 5 more weeks every 5 years after that.

We cannot accumulate more than 45 days annual leave, but that does not include "anticipated leave" which is removed from accumulated totals as soon as it has been applied for and approved. So theoretically we can be right on the 45 day limit with several weeks anticipated leave already approved on the books. We are able to book leave in up to 12 months in advance.

We can also draw on up to half of our next years (10-12.5 days) annual leave for overseas trips/special occasions if we need to.

These are all 8 hour days and we generally work 9-10 hour shift, but they are averaged out over either 4 or 5 weeks to the 40 hours (160 hours on a 4 week cycle 200 hours every 5 weeks on any other cycle).

That is a lot of time off compared to the 10 days maximum you guys might have.
 
Kiwi - thanks much for your posting and your travel guide offer. My wife, who is English, has got NZ on her bucket list. Now that we've retired, and after a LONG COVID-19 stay-at-home-cation, we have the time for a visit to your beautiful country. I visited NZ, thanks to the US Navy, in the early 80s for about five months. The RNZAF was transitioning to newer aircraft (A-4Ms bought from the RAN), and I was part of the Navy transition team. We were based at RNZAF Blenheim, outside of Picton on the South Island and also at RNZAF Ohakea near Palmerston North on the North Island. It was the best time I had in the Navy - never bought a drink while I was in uniform. Beautiful country and wonderful people. I'm going to show my wife your post and she'll probably be in contact with you. :)
 
Jeez! All that vacation and national health care, too!

Japan is fairly generous with vacation, by law, but, most folks don't take it all. I did. Glad I did, too. I worked for the Japan branch of a large US corporation for 25 years.

Early on, I started taking all my vacation days. A month or more at a go. I'd head back continental stateside, or later to my place in Hawaii. Made a lot of people, inside the company, unhappy, especially my US management.

(The Japanese employees didn't like it either. They thought taking all my vacation due showed a lack of dedication. Or, at least, that is how I understood the vibe.)

But, I used to tell myself, and them, management and employees, if they pushed, "Ten years from now, this company won't even remember my name. But I sure hope my family does!"

It's been nine years since I retired. My prediction has proved correct. I don't regret a single day of vacation taken, back when I was working for a living... And I very much doubt if anyone in the large corporation I worked for, all those many years, remembers my name.

(A month of vacation, at one go, is the norm in much of the, um, what we used to call "the first world.")
 
Kiwi - thanks much for your posting and your travel guide offer. My wife, who is English, has got NZ on her bucket list. Now that we've retired, and after a LONG COVID-19 stay-at-home-cation, we have the time for a visit to your beautiful country. I visited NZ, thanks to the US Navy, in the early 80s for about five months. The RNZAF was transitioning to newer aircraft (A-4Ms bought from the RAN), and I was part of the Navy transition team. We were based at RNZAF Blenheim, outside of Picton on the South Island and also at RNZAF Ohakea near Palmerston North on the North Island. It was the best time I had in the Navy - never bought a drink while I was in uniform. Beautiful country and wonderful people. I'm going to show my wife your post and she'll probably be in contact with you. :)

My patrol base is directly across the road from RNZAF Base Ohakea.
 
Jeez! All that vacation and national health care, too!

Mmmmm... I better be careful here or I might get a ding or three.

National Health Care: Your doctor makes a referral to a specialist. A few weeks later you get a letter. You are classified either as;

Urgent: you will get an appointment sometime in the next six weeks.

Semi-Urgent: You will get an appointment sometime in the next 6 months.

Non-Urgent: You are referred back to your doctor for further assessment.

I am bloody glad I have health insurance and can go private. Last time I needed to see a specialist I was in and out within 3 weeks.
 
Mmmmm... I better be careful here or I might get a ding or three.

National Health Care: Your doctor makes a referral to a specialist. A few weeks later you get a letter. You are classified either as;

Urgent: you will get an appointment sometime in the next six weeks.

Semi-Urgent: You will get an appointment sometime in the next 6 months.

Non-Urgent: You are referred back to your doctor for further assessment.

I am bloody glad I have health insurance and can go private. Last time I needed to see a specialist I was in and out within 3 weeks.

Yeah, I like my private healthcare also. Freedom to choose my options. Get your hands off my body. :)
 
That is a lot of time off compared to the 10 days maximum you guys might have.
The non-union, private sector benefits package here is generally as minimal as possible, since there are few labor mandates.
All my children are civil service employees, with much better packages than we ever saw in the engineering industry.
My last private sector job before I went freelance in 1983, was with a major engineering firm. They started with 2 weeks vacation, progressing to 3 weeks after 10 years and 4 weeks after 20 years. 10 sick days, but a doctors note required if you used more than 3 days consecutively. 10 national holidays and 3 floating holidays.
They let you carryover 1 week vacation to the next year, but permitted only 2 weeks vacation consecutively.
As miserly as all that seemed, the worst thing was the "pension squeeze". This was when your employer would lay you off just before the time your pension benefits were vested. Pension vestment could take as long as 10 years. There was one co-worker who broke down in tears when being pink-slipped after 9 years. Then I found out the exact same thing had happened to him at his previous two employers, so he'd put in 27 years without any vested pension. The government now allows employee-funded retirement schemes, patially to address this problem of cheating employees of defined-benefit pension plans.




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I ran a division of TNT back between 1996 and 2008 and made many trips to NZ. Was on both islands a lot and loved sailing in Auckland Harbor on Wednesday afternoons for the 1,000 sales celebrations.

Bob
 
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