WE Just MAde Another Country Mad At Us!

I have long said the most civilized country in the world is not the United States, but Switzerland. The bigger US has more (civilized) people, but also a ton of uncivilized people.

I am proud to be a US citizen, but would be even more proud to be a Swiss citizen. Imagine living where there are no drive-by shootings every weekend and most of the Illinois governors in jail!

Just one comment from the heartland of America.
 
Well, maybe the South will rise again?

Only this time, I'll probably start with Idaho and Montana.
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I just fail to see any Robert E. Lee and Sam Houston types...
 
Originally posted by Swissman:
Just my two cents


C'mon wake up. Ask a belgian worker. Every belgian worker supports two unemployed. But many of this unemployed got the own little business running. And they don't pay a dime taxes. The Gov. knows this, but they don't do anything, because the next election will come and they need the voting from this big bunch of cheaters.
Swissman (and that with proud)

Swissman, we have the same problem. How do you think Obama got elected int he first place.
 
Well I wasn't going to say anything But...
I'll start with KeithCarter,If you have corrupt governers and they are not in jail,Their is something wrong with your countries laws that allow this type of thing to happen,Secondly drive by shootings are happening because of the criminal gangs that your government won't stop.Lets look at who are the gang members,Majority are Blacks and Mexicans and the rest are wanna be's.As for being more proud to be a Swiss citizen....Just go ,No one is stopping you,you live in a free country not a neutral one.Now for the swiss acounts that are kept annonomous,It could be true what swissman says,But we all know that all the foreign accounts are their for one reason and that is to hide money that can't be traced.This has been going on for years.Drug money,Stolen money,Fallen governments all over the world have made deposits that can't be traced.And You know and I know the Swiss gov and banks knew this.Their is a hell of a lot more that could be said here.

Ken
 
My answer to Aussie44:

Why is all the dirty money in Switzerland and all the clean money on the Bermudas, Monaco etc.?????? For sure we got our share of dirty money on this anonymus accounts. I've never denied it and I'm for sure not proud of it. But to accuse Switzerland as the only bad guy in this financial game is pretty easy. Much to easy.

Australia is very far away from Switzerland. So I had to update myself a bit and watching how well fits Australia to my first statement. Here for the members. Maybe it's the cause that should be repaired and not the symptoms!!!

The Australian income-tax-rules 2006/2007 (They are pretty fair til 80'000)

$A 0 'til $A 6000...............0
$A 6,001 'til $A 25,000.........15 Cent for every $A over $A 6,000 = ca. 10%
$A 25,001 bis $A 75,000.........$A 2,850 plus 30 Cent for every $A over $A 25,000 ($A 50'000 = 10'350.-- taxes = 20%)
$A 75,001 bis $A 150,000........$A 17,850 plus 40 Cent for every $A over $A 75,000 ($A 100'000 = 27'850 .-- taxes = 27.8%)
Over $A 150,000................ $A 47,850 plus 45 Cent for every $A over $A 150,000

That's pretty fair, but the following-part shows pretty clear that the Australian tax-jungle is incredible.

Next to the income tax Australia got many other taxes that must be payed mostly from the entrepreneurs. This citizen who take the risk, the burden to run a business, generating jobs, etc. Here a small choice of them:

Corporate Tax for every business: 30% of the business-profit per year.
Goods and Services Tax (GST): 10% for every business with a turnover $A 50'000 or more.
Payroll Tax: 6% A business with a payroll higher than $A 600'000 pays this to the Gov.
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Fringe Benefits Tax: 46% Example: The businessowner pays for the worth of f.e. 7'000 miles that the employee can drive privatly with the businesscar. Or if the businessowner loans the employee money for lower than normal interests.
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Without a tax-expert is it not possible to run a business in Australia and i think this expert will cost you easy another $A 5000.-- a year. (plus tax
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A bit dizzy

Swissman
 
For one thing I never said all the dirty money was in Swiss banks but most..I do my own tax and run a business,I'm no expert,So you If you decide you want an expert to do your taxes it won't cost you $5000 but about $500,Unless you are a multi millionair or higher then it might cost you a bit to get your taxes done.One other thing all those corporate monies and the fee for the expert are tax deductable.Anyway I'm not badmouthing you or the Swiss only telling it like it is with the Governments and Banks.Also what does the Australian tax bracket have to do with what we are talking about here??

Ken
 
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