What type of gun is better for self defense in a beginner: a revolver or a semi-auto?

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I have rephrased the parameters of this question. We are talk a beginner. A person that has never worked with guns or had a gun before. My preference is the revolver because you don't have to worry about jamming as much, a round being in the chamber, and/or the safety being on. It is a point and shoot set setup where the ease of use in an emergency situation will benefit the potential victim.
 
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That's some pretty good thinking you have right there, and I think you'll find the majority of the fellas (and ladies) with lots of experience here will tell you its what FEELS GOOD TO YOU! ..... I could go on and on about the benefits of both, and what detracts from both... but my own opinion on YOUR case would be this ..

You already like the revolvers, and thats a great firearm to have if its your first or your 1000th .... and in a SD situation, I feel just as confident with my 5 round 360pd, as most of these situations dont' require a 21+ magazine to get you to safety.

Now, don't get me wrong, both of these 'machines' as I like to call them have parts that will go 'sproingoingoingoingoing' as they fly across your living room never to be found again ... but the relative simplicity of a wheel gun is a huge advantage to not fully understanding your striker fire or DA semi auto....

Don't get me wrong though, you're going to end up buying a ton of both of them and will own more holsters than you do underwear at some point ... so get in where ya fit in!!!!

nogoodnamesleft
 
It comes down to the individual, beginner or no. A beginner may find a revolver easier to use...a revolver doesn't have a safety to worry about and doesn't require a firm grip to function (i.e., limp wristing.) However, a revolver in DA mode may not be as pleasant to shoot nor as accurate for a beginner...especially not a small revolver, whose recoil might even be unpleasant.

I think the best thing to do is have the beginner take a class, where they can be exposed to a variety of handguns, and learn safety and shooting techniques. Then, take them to a range that rents handguns, and let them shoot various makes/models until they find the one that fits best, and functions the best for them.
 
Revolvers are probably slightly easier for the complete beginner to get going but after five minutes of training the guy that started with the auto(I'm talking about a good modern auto design like Glock or M&P) is going to be ahead of the guy who started with the revolver.

Excluding pocket guns. J Frames have a lot going for them v the baby autos.
 
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If I were working with a beginner, and I do from time to time, I would start with my K22 Masterpiece and move on to my High Standard Victor .22 semi-auto so that they gain experience with both types.

Ken
 
I like my semi autos, but you don't need to rack the slide on a revolver.
I had never given this much thought until a neighbor asked me to help her learn about her new Glock. She could not rack the slide and get the first round chambered. We worked a way that she would simultaneously push with both hands in opposite directions, but it took her everything she had. She will not admit defeat, but I believe she is unhappy with her choice.

Also, if you reload, you don't lose revolver brass in front of the firing line or in the grass.
 
I think the revolver has a slight edge when it comes to a beginner's first gun like many others have posted, but I think the best choice is the one the beginner likes. I believe that if beginners choose a gun that they like and enjoy handling the more likely they are to practice with it.

For example, I owned a Glock 23 for a few years and managed to put around 400 rounds through it before I sold it. On the other hand, I've had my 642 for about 10 months and I've put over 1k rounds through it in that time. I just enjoy the revolver more. Someone else may enjoy the semi-auto more.

I think the most important concerns are choosing a good quality gun in a reasonable caliber (.500 Magnum is probably not a good choice for a beginner) and how well the beginner can manipulate the gun (i.e., revolver DA trigger pulls may be diffcult for some but they can rack the slide of a semi-auto with much less difficulty, or vice versa). Getting some good, basic training and being able to try a variety of guns is the best way to work this out, IMO.
 
I started with a revolver myself and now don't own any, the 1911 became an addiction once I tried one :D

That said as everyone here has more or less said, to each his own and you may be better off going to a range and rent some revolvers and semiautos and see what works best.

I liked learning on the revolver as they are a little more forgiving about some mistakes, that I made as a beginner.

Also you can skip load the chambers to help with your practice to see if you are jerking or slapping the trigger or anticipating recoil.

So even being a semiauto guy now, if I started over I would start with a revolver.

Hope you enjoy your new firearm and the start of your collection!!! Yes you will buy more, many, many more :cool:
 
The second case for a revolver is how we must keep the semi-auto to make sure it isn't misfired or for safety. We don't want a round in the chamber so if the gun is dropped and it doesn't have a safety against firing it doesn't go off. In addition we now have double action and single action pistols. Generally a safe way to keep your gun is no round in the chamber. The safety may even be kept on for safety. How well do people think when they have the life or death circumstance facing them? The answer is they don't think very well and it is hard to concentrate. You are in the fight or flight mode and the blood has gone to your muscles.

Will the beginner be able to remember to pull the slide back to load a shell in the chamber, will they remember to take off the safety on the pistol, and we still don't know if the gun could jam. Dislodging a jam could take some time especially when you are a beginner. Imagine a man with a knife at 15 feet away. Studies with police officers have shown an optimal distance of approximately 25 feet to draw a weapon and being able to fire in time before the assailant hits the officer and kills him with his knife. Imagine shooting and having a problem from the beginning. Is the beginner going to be able to fix that problem before the criminal gets to them. Handling a pistol requires repeated training and practice over and over again to move the slide and get the safety off to shoot in time. Your actions must be fast. The actions must be second nature or you could be dead especially if the person has a knife and is rushing you. Repeated practice over and over again so the action becomes second nature so you don't have to think about the action you just do it. This is the reason a revolver is so good for a beginner. They just have to point and shoot.

Any action forgotten or a mishap could delay the firing of the weapon. Time is critical here and you don't have minutes to decide if your gun won't fire whether a round is in the chamber, you forgot to load your gun, you forgot to take off the safety. We are talking about seconds and not minutes here. If you aren't ready to fire at that critical moment the consequences could be death. If you are more advanced you may be more ready to handle the chambering of the round, safety off, know that your magazine is loaded, and therefore respond with split second timing to get a round off.

For a beginner to get to the level where he or she has split second timing with a pistol could be awhile. My opinion here and the whys of my opinion. One more aspect not discussed here is the accuracy of the beginner because if he or she misses they could injure or kill someone else.
 
I remember being a beginner. Learning with a revolver gets you over the noob hump quicker. I think they are inherently safer on which to teach and to learn. Easier to learn how to handle, how to clean, how to check for loaded condition, how many bullets left, and so on. Once you learn proper handling and range etiquette, and you get over the fear that 'I can handle this and load this and shoot this and I won't kill myself or someone else' part, then any gun after that becomes just a new gun you need to get familar with, not another unknown entity.

At first a noob will have a million things going through their minds as they try to take in all that is being taught, and a revolver has an openness to it, everything is right there in sight, not hidden away or possible confusing like a semi-auto - is the chamber loaded; is the safety this way or that way? - that sort of thing.

Not to say a noob can't learn a semi as a first weapon, I am sure some folks learned on semi's and had no problems.

Well, as I said, I remember my first time.
 
Well I think beginner or not it depends on the person. My wife for instance cannot consistantly rack the slide on any auto she has tried so we got her a S&W airweight with a crimson trace laser grip. She can load unload and fire the little Smith with no issue. However she is far more accurate with my glock 19 than the smith due to the trigger pulls. I plan on trying a reduced power recoil spring in my glock 19 with standard pressure ammo to see if she can work the slide if not I'm going to have to get a trigger job done on the j frame to help her be more accurate.

I got a little off topic there but it will always depend on the person, their physical ability and gross motor skill with the firearm. Revolvers are easier to learn as far as manipulation goes but still may not be the answer. Try a lot of weapons find the one with the least amount of compromises and train, train, train.

JP
 
The second case for a revolver is how we must keep the semi-auto to make sure it isn't misfired or for safety. We don't want a round in the chamber so if the gun is dropped and it doesn't have a safety against firing it doesn't go off. In addition we now have double action and single action pistols. Generally a safe way to keep your gun is no round in the chamber. The safety may even be kept on for safety. How well do people think when they have the life or death circumstance facing them? The answer is they don't think very well and it is hard to concentrate. You are in the fight or flight mode and the blood has gone to your muscles.

Will the beginner be able to remember to pull the slide back to load a shell in the chamber, will they remember to take off the safety on the pistol, and we still don't know if the gun could jam. Dislodging a jam could take some time especially when you are a beginner. Imagine a man with a knife at 15 feet away. Studies with police officers have shown an optimal distance of approximately 25 feet to draw a weapon and being able to fire in time before the assailant hits the officer and kills him with his knife. Imagine shooting and having a problem from the beginning. Is the beginner going to be able to fix that problem before the criminal gets to them. Handling a pistol requires repeated training and practice over and over again to move the slide and get the safety off to shoot in time. Your actions must be fast. The actions must be second nature or you could be dead especially if the person has a knife and is rushing you. Repeated practice over and over again so the action becomes second nature so you don't have to think about the action you just do it. This is the reason a revolver is so good for a beginner. They just have to point and shoot.

Any action forgotten or a mishap could delay the firing of the weapon. Time is critical here and you don't have minutes to decide if your gun won't fire whether a round is in the chamber, you forgot to load your gun, you forgot to take off the safety. We are talking about seconds and not minutes here. If you aren't ready to fire at that critical moment the consequences could be death. If you are more advanced you may be more ready to handle the chambering of the round, safety off, know that your magazine is loaded, and therefore respond with split second timing to get a round off.

For a beginner to get to the level where he or she has split second timing with a pistol could be awhile. My opinion here and the whys of my opinion. One more aspect not discussed here is the accuracy of the beginner because if he or she misses they could injure or kill someone else.

LMAO!! :p

I think when he wakes up and reads this he is going to laugh too!! :D

Hey, can we start a thread on which is better for women, a revolver or a semi-auto??? :o
 
Semi autos are great and they are fine for a new shooter IF the shooter is going to dedicate time and money to learning how to handle the gun. Too many people walk into a store, buy a semi auto (very often a Glock. Don't get me started on that choice for a new shooter), fire a box or two (if that) and put it in the sock drawer. Semi autos require more general maintenance to keep running reliably, and TOO MANY people forget the gun is still loaded if you take the mag out. A good friend of mine left his XD with the mag out and a round chambered for over 2 years, thinking if his daughter found it (in his sock drawer), that it was unloaded. I know for a fact that when we transistioned rom revolvers to semi autos, there were WAY more ND's reported (and God knows how many weren't reported), and these are from cops who have at least had a rudimentary training session.

Yeah, yeah. I know. :"Learn how to handle a gun" and "my safety is between my ears". Unfortunately, many people are totally incompetent with guns, and a revolver is more forgiving of mishandling.
 
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I prefer to use a .22LR bolt action rifle with beginners....

If it has to be a handgun, then a Model 63 kit gun is what I start 'em on. The few new shooters I've started on handguns have been women - who were lacking in upper body strength to safely rack the semiauto.
 
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